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Soooo... that's messy. Warnings... Read more... )

Also, several strands of plot are about breaking into or out of quarantine.
Quarantine is serious business and the story shouldn't expect us to side with breaking quarantine.
And I cannot be having with the whole secretly evil vaccine plot at all.

Sooo... not liking any of the parts here.

Also, I remain puzzled who they think their audience is. Read more... ) Shippers aren't looking for that particular brand of angst, right? That's a bit much even for Torchwood.

Do they just not like Jack/Ianto? Then why focus on them?

Though to be fair things go equally poorly for everyone else too, albeit more briefly, including Gwen/Rhys.

But okay, actual specific thoughts: Read more... )



Okay, so, I found it unpleasant and wasn't entirely concentrating, but I still feel like it didn't quite stick together.



All the familiar characters got something to do but that something was quite a lot be ill and get shot. Also some running around and seeing things happen. The solving things part... well that needed the skills of Tosh and Owen, and got the skills of Jack and a random. Somewhat unsatisfying really.

Not that I'd want to put Tosh and Owen through this plot. Dark enough as was.




I feel a bit like I disliked it too much to review it fairly. Maybe it made perfectly good sense and I just didn't like the topic. But I disliked it quite a lot.

The bit in the middle did have a bunch of feels, relationship angst, Read more... )



This was not what I wanted from a story.

But I can't say dark is tonally inconsistent with canon.

Maybe I don't want Torchwood.
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Somewhere past the end of the great and bountiful human empire, lost in space, there is the Torchwood Archive. And it's having a theme week.

Someone arrives with an alien item and a whole lot of questions about Object One. They find holographic ghosts of the Torchwood we know, still being themselves, together after thousands of years. And they get a tour of Torchwood from the very beginning.

Trigger warnings for the usual: murder, murder of friends and family, suicide, homophobic violence, things being darker and twistier than they seem.

And it's in a whole lot of little sections. They weave together. But it felt to me like a lot more plot than character, just because there's so many characters there's hardly any time for each particular one. We learn lots of neat and interesting glimpses but it's not like we can hang around to have feels.

It gives lots of answers to long running plot arcs. What the little locket was that got opened on new year's eve of the new century. What's even up with the Committee. What would Toshiko even do if she managed to be happy for a couple of days.

Spoilers, though predictable: Read more... )


Okay story. Lots of neat bits. Interesting way to pass the time.




But whatever I'm looking for in my media consumption, this leaves me still looking.
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Well that was nothingy.
It's trying to be scary but there's nothing about it that makes it a Torchwood story.
It's just a spooky voice trying to get you to look at it. Except that's a stupid conceit for an audio play because you can't get the audience involved. There's never any danger we'll see something, so, no visceral involvement.
Read more... )


There's no point doing a scary thing isolates your character story unless it reveals things about your character. The Nightmare Man did a good scary thing. This might be any attempted spook story on the radio, but not a very competent one.

Don't bother.
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Hated it.
It's Suzie, so you know how it'll end, and then it doesn't do much very interesting on the way there.
And I know we're going to disagree with Suzie but still, the whole thing is judging what lives are worth the fight, and sod that.
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PC Andy saving the day as part of an assessment given by a ghost.

As with all the best Torchwood, both hilarious and dark. Humans doing the most messed up stuff for the most everyday reasons. And this human laughing while characters have really nasty stuff happen to them, because it feels like a hilarious run around when you can't actually see them die messy.

I continue to enjoy the Torchwood audios.
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Today mum helped me go to argos to take back the games thing that turned out to be boring
and while I was there I bought a £25 CD player 'boombox'
because I'm sure there's easier ways if I can figure out assorted whatsits but since I haven't I just want to play my CDs without the TV.
The sound quality is what you'd expect at the price
but it does indeed play CDs
so I am quite content.

Torchwood: Zone 10
is an interesting adventure for Toshiko Sato.
The other voices have 'Russian' accents and I had to work to hear them, which made them a bit boring.
Tosh is on her own for an adventure, and it's a bit about how she's given up everything for Torchwood.
I was a bit puzzled by her being allowed to go to Russia on her own for an adventure given how she was recruited to Torchwood, but okays.
I think I liked it okay but it never quite grabbed me.


And now the bin men are doing their thing outside, so I'll think of something with no audio to do while they're loud.
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Dreamed I was with Team Torchwood, minus Gwen, and they all thought I was great and part of the team etc
Clearly something was up
but I'm not Adam cause I'm not creepy
and also everyone seemed to be having a nice time and be happy and stuff
... so, yeah, something was up.

Turns out that in a 'verse with psychic monsters that feed on pain and fear and nightmares, somewhere that has a something that can be pulled out of people to feed on either eternally or for a really long time, there's a niche in the ecosystem for ones that feed on happiness.

Read more... )

Torchwood heaven.

A farm for making everyone Jack cares about as happy as possible for as long as possible, so a psychic parasite can eat it.

That seems to work.
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Today I listened to 1.04 One Rule, 1.05 Uncanny Valley, and 1.06 More than This.

1.04 and 1.05 were solid in their ways, though two dead gay guys in a row is not really what I was hoping for, even knowing the source text. Writing gay people and killing gay people do not have to be the same thing. Except for when your stories are so economical with their characters that everybody gets killed at least once. At that point things get depressing.

1.06 needs trigger warning for suicide, and yet ended on that grey morning sort of hope that Torchwood does best. Of the three it was clearly the best. And I loved the setup, that Torchwood needs planning permission so they need to explain to the planning guy exactly what Torchwood does. After that it's a lot of running around Cardiff and just when you think it's a romp it goes all serious in the exactly right degree. And then after the end music, the last funny. It's the mix of tones and the SF in the everyday that Torchwood does best. So I liked it best.

1.04 did its share of running around Cardiff too, but the cover character is pretty definitely a bad guy, so it does not turn out well for anyone. Vivid characters, well drawn, rather dark.

1.05 I keep turning over to try and decide what I think of it. For a start the cover seems misleading, since it's not quite what's inside, but there's angles where it's commentary instead, which is a bit interesting. Read more... ) a very Torchwood story that I don't really see any other show doing in quite this way. It's doing some very SF stuff that make the layers where it ties in to the Torchwood arc seem a bit of a distraction from the interesting bits, yet they make sense in the plot.

And Jack being Jack he's going to get dead so he can do his party trick, that's kind of what he's for.

... but I still can't like stories where everyone is queer and dead. That's just...

So Uncanny Valley mostly just bothers me.

But it's a proper story that uses all of its parts effectively in both an SF and Torchwood way.



More Than This is better.


But having listened to the whole first season now, Fall to Earth is best, and not just because Ianto. Though also because Ianto.



I'll happily get the next season of Big Finish Torchwood audios.



... but I'll be careful about my mood before listening to them, because they do get dark.
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The Torchwood audios jump around in time rather, so this one is Gwen and Rhys five years after the Miracle, and their back and forth is proper revealing. There's also Jack as you've never seen/heard him, and to interesting effect; I think I like what it says about him, and the possibilities opened up. Good mix of funny and sudden epic serious. Plus an ending that's only kind of a downer, which most weeks is the best Torchwood can manage.

I kept getting distracted thinking about how much fun this sort of thing would be for actors. The cast list says something like 'other parts played by the cast' and they are not kidding.

Also I liked the use of Welsh, and the lack of it being the indicator of Something Very Wrong.



Gwen was never my favourite character (by rather a lot) but I can listen to Gwen & Rhys like this quite happily.


Plus I'm liking the audios cause I can get on with other stuff while they're on. Had forgotten that while I was using the headphones, being tethered to the computer is less useful. Must remember to play them via the TV more often... or get computer speakers that can actually plug in to my current setup.
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I read this because the local library is not oversupplied with F&SF. It's a Torchwood novel from after I stopped wanting to watch Torchwood. It features Gwen, Rhys, and a series of nightmares about dead team mates. And Gwen was never my favourite. To put it mildly. So I was never tempted to read this one.

It turns out to be surprisingly good. I mean, given that I didn't like any of the elements of the setup, I was surprised, but it was good. Engaging, funny, full of the tiny grimy details that make Torchwood feel more real and local than the standard SF fare.

It's set right around the time Gwen's baby gets born. The whole 'children do mind control' thing is unsubtle, is in fact spelled out clearly at several points, but is on occasion hilarious. Read more... )

Very Torchwood.

I liked it, enough to remember why I liked Torchwood.
beccaelizabeth: Ianto Jones, Jack Harkness, and Gwen Cooper. From the publicity stills from before Children of Earth. (Torchwood 3)
I opened this window to post and then mum phoned and asked me all about the weekend so an hour later:
Still home from the Hub :-)

That was fun. Three nights of dancing, some conversations, lots of guest encounters, lots of taking notes, watching talks, screenings, and a quiz. Many LOLs. Couple of photographs. And some being in the lift with guests. Quite a lot of that actually, I seem to have got on a synchronised schedule. I think I even made appropriate conversation noises when addressed. Or near enough.

Absolutely definitely more fun than staying home would have been, which was all I wanted out of the weekend.

Read more... )

I didn't find much edible at the hotel though, so now I need to eat.

And then sleep.
I don't think I've slept more than four hours a night, and I couldn't sleep past 0630 at all at all.
After staying up until after the party ended at 0130.

Catching up on reading list logically should wait.
beccaelizabeth: Ianto Jones, Jack Harkness, and Gwen Cooper. From the publicity stills from before Children of Earth. (Torchwood 3)
The schedule for Hub 8 is up
http://showmastersonline.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=75361
and there's not so many talks, but there's plenty many extra Guest Encounters. Which is like talks where there's less people in the room and there's having a chat.
... so I'm wondering, how few of us are there, that they can fit us in with all the guests in reasonable sized groups?

I booked on Saturday and my ticket has come through Standard 52.
There's probably lots of Gold and Silvers as well though.

I must think up some good questions if we're doing chatty things.
I know what questions I always think of to ask writers, only I know there's no good answers apart from 'write good stuff and then write more of it'.

... oh dear, I'm going to have to very not think about my Rhodri stories that I've got all bunnies for and a world sketched out. Because nobody else at all wants to know. Even if in my head Rhodri is played by Kai Owen.
... it's worse than remembering not to be boring about fanfic, it's not even same fandom.

But I have been watching Torchwood eps so I should have things to say about them.
(It's socially weird to go meeting actors when you've been watching them wander around naked and have sex. I mean, mostly that's not data you have about people who don't know you back. Weird.)

I have started on season 2. I skipped Sleeper because I don't think I'm going to get to watch all the eps by tomorrow evening. I'll skip Adam too. There's good stuff there, but almost everyone's out of character. And I'm going to fast forward through bits of Reset because there's less story than time.

Captain John Hart: Always fun.

Ways I can tell I still care about these characters: It's weirdly painful watching Tosh admit she worried Tommy would see her get old. Wouldn't have happened.
And Ianto knows it.

Jack/Ianto kissing <3 <3 <3

... coherence, I no has it...
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I finished rewatching Torchwood season 1.

I have nothing new to say about it, because it is as I watched over and over already. Is still good.

Captain Jack Harkness <3

Though still Toshiko's plans are not quite with the sense making.

Mostly though just all the <3 <3 <3

End of Days... much as I love watching everyone fall apart, and the tearful reunions at the end, the bit in the middle with the chewitt monster Abaddon is just impossible to take seriously. Read more... )

I like Torchwood as television, but if these are the people one must rely on to save the earth, there is only fear and *facepalm*.

Still, it's ridiculous how much time I spend with them in my head, half a decade later.
beccaelizabeth: Ianto Jones, Jack Harkness, and Gwen Cooper. From the publicity stills from before Children of Earth. (Torchwood 3)
That was more interesting than I remember. Not the fight club per se, Owen and Gwen.
Read more... )

Torchwood are not the good guys. Way too messed up.

But they're the ones that turn up and try.

All things considered I'm not sure that's quite a good thing though.
beccaelizabeth: Ianto Jones, Jack Harkness, and Gwen Cooper. From the publicity stills from before Children of Earth. (Torchwood 3)
I skipped the shoes one. I'm fairly sure I've skipped the shoes one ever since first broadcast.

Being bored of Gwen makes watching a bit difficult. Read more... )

It's also a bit hard to like Gwen when you like Rhys.

Torchwood season 1 has a lot of times nobody looks good but it's sprinkled with shiny times for everyone.
... when was Gwen's?
... and why am I so sulkily against her this time, when she were fine other times I watched?
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I was going to skip Countrycide but then when I did I was :-( so I decided to watch it after all.

I like how it used the camera things that usually mean 'scary monster we're saving for the first scream break' to play on audience's expectations. And they're putting the team through their paces, like with Cyberwoman they trap them among all their toys and see what happens, and this time they strip the toys away. Except for Jack's, because his gun and his wrist thing are always with him.
... they don't do so very well without tech.

... Torchwood are a bunch of idiots. I mean, it's not just Owen, it's all of them. I know they don't know they've walked into the wrong genre, but even accounting for that. And Gwen... how is it she's supposed to have been a police officer but human evil messes with her head? Humans are creeps. Surely the police know that?

Also, Gwen is so socially useless. Read more... )

Greeks Bearing Gifts: That really didn't make any sense at all.
Read more... )

I think I said ages ago how I'd fix the episode and be themey about Torchwood at the same time: Mary isn't the prisoner, she's the guard. Read more... )

So next is They Keep Killing Suzie, and Gwen is new and improved depths of useless.
Lovely.


Torchwood in season 1 were not the good guys. Read more... )

Got to love team Torchwood.
Makes you feel good about your own potential in the face of such things.
beccaelizabeth: Ianto Jones, Jack Harkness, and Gwen Cooper. From the publicity stills from before Children of Earth. (Torchwood 3)
Since I decided to go to the Hub next weekend I've started rewatching Torchwood. I've only got the first two seasons on DVD but that's because I'd only want to watch the first two seasons, so that works out.
The subtitles are quite a bit wrong on Cyberwoman. I'm not sure about the others, but I've done a transcript from the TV version for Cyberwoman and I know which version I believe. And it's character changing stuff, not just trivia. Very irritating.
Also my discs keep doing that thing where it freezes for a second and then picks up again, and I don't know if it misses a second or three around there or if it just be slow.

But: Cyberwoman.
That is a beautiful bit of TV.
Read more... )


So, anyway, I'm skipping the one with the fairies because I can't remember anything particularly shiny about it. So now I'm trying to decide watch or skip with Countrycide. On the one hand, another strong episode, plenty of character stuff. On the other, it always creeps me out. I need my layer of distance, and F&SF metaphor is it. Creepy things humans actually do are a whole genre I try and avoid.

*ponders*



Also today I have read an entire book on The Cabinet of Dr Caligari. Granted, it was a BFI Film Classics book and really tiny, but I totally read it. What I mostly learned from it is there's a big argue about the film and who thought of doing what and when and who kept the rights after. So any other book that has one coherent version of what happened has picked and chosen its sources. Which is useful to know, but doesn't tell me much about who to believe. Still, it's interesting to read.
... now I'm imagining a DVD commentary track from these people. It don't sound like you could have got more than three of them in the same room at a time without a bust up. Possibly only two. If that.

Modern texts have a whole ton of interesting extras. But the more I study texts people have thoroughly poked the behind the scenes story of, the more I am sure the whole story never can get told, because everyone has different ones and they evolve. Is interesting.

The Hub 8

Apr. 5th, 2012 10:32 pm
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Is anyone going to The Hub 8?
Guests include Kai Owen and Gareth David Lloyd, and some other people from the first two seasons.
It's next weekend.
I got an email about it, a tickets are still available please go sort of email.
This is going to be the last Torchwood convention from Massive Events.
So I was thinking, I may as well go.
But I don't know if anyone else at all is.
Can't be many, if it's stopping.

Torchwood fandom has been acting like canon closed years ago. Winding down for ages.

So now I have to decide before next weekend if I want to go party.
At an event that as far as I can see hasn't announced the party themes.
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I went to the shops :-)
I nearly tripped over a stringy branch bit :-(
I telled the customer desk about it, because it's their path, even though its probably silly to say :-/
I ordered hot food :-)
Only one egg went on the receipt so only one egg arrived to eat :-(
(plus the beans and hash browns that I usually have :-) )
Also the plate was small and food kept escaping :-(
Then I went around the shop and bought all the things on the list :-)
Including loo roll, cause I wrote it on my hand :-)
But not apple lattice things, because I asked and they said they don't make them any more, only big pies :-(
now I am home :-)

On balance a :-)



Torchwood Miracle Day was shelved with the Comedy Chart
... *blinks* LOLs???
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I have read more about the aired episodes of Torchwood that I have not watched yet.
And I just deleted it from my recorder box. All gone bye bye done.
... which, given the thing never actually would record it, may be mostly a symbolic gesture, but clearly it was trying to protect me, so I like it still.

I read a thing on AfterElton.com that crystalised my feeling this season has changed genres. It compared the first couple of seasons, which I liked, with the most recent, and said the first couple were about monsters and this one is about humans.

I watch science fiction and fantasy because humans already scare the crap out of me.
I'd rather watch monsters, and see them dealt with by the end of the episode.
If that's just not going to happen, I'm not going to watch.
Read more... )
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Okay, so I can't sleep and I'm having a bad brain day, and my brain has decided to chew over Torchwood.
This was on the list of reasons I didn't start watching this season.
Sometimes I should listen to me.

Spoilers for Miracle Day up to ep 3.
Read more... )


I need to get my brain a new track. I've tried listening to music and reading stuff but my brain remains unhelpful.


Since CoE I have spent a truly ridiculous amount of time and brain space going over the whole thing and thinking on where+when I, if I had time travel, and lived in the appropriate universe, knowing what I know, would intervene to make everything turn out different. It's not a one point intervention. Read more... )

Of course I do know this is nuts. I mean, I'm in this universe. I can stop thinking about this. Any time now. Really.

... then my brain will pick another groove. I don't know which yet, I just know it always has something to chew on.



I get fed up of stories which just kill people and make their lives miserable. that's easy. that's the problem you set up at the start of the story. The tricky story, the good one, the ones we need quite often, that's the story of how to keep people alive and well and happy. Just stating the problem is rubbish. I want to fix things.

... I'm not very good at fixing things.
*sigh*
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I watched two more of Torchwood.
I watched them on fast forward and I'm still bored.
I did slow it down a couple of times to watch Jack have conversations, so I still like Jack, but I'm pretty sure I could watch Jack in re-runs and know him just as well by now.
Also the pictures that should be pretty keep bugging me with the lighting and colors. I don't even know why. I definitely don't know why it bugs me. They just all look weird all the time. and they did something to Gwen's hair. and I think Jack is using a different color dye. And I'd quite like to quit noticing now.

So, spoilers
Read more... )


I just now watched two episodes but I feel like I can't remember enough plot for one.

Read more... )

I miss Jack.

After watching two hours of his show.

:-(


PS: Read more... )
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I'm only on episode one but it's still spoilers.
and I think I've figured out why everyone looks different. The lighting is different, the colors are different, I don't know why, but it's making everyone look weirdly photoshopped. And it's bugging me.
Read more... )


So, funnily enough, I was right the first time: I do not like RTD's writing, I do not like his idea of plots, I do not like this new 'Torchwood' with all the Torchwood-y bits taken out.
... now I have watched the first episode I will almost certainly watch more, because I'm stupid like that.
... the BBC will consider this Job Done. Drat, there's a reason to illegally download it if ever I heard one...
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You know what's not helpful? Having developed a tendency to giggle whenever Ianto says 'Lisa'. *facepalm*


Lots of spoilers: Read more... )

So I was all blah blah, yada yada, blah blah, thought I would be bored...
and then I pretty much quoted all the last bit.

So I'd say the ending worked. Really quite a lot.



... unfortunately, now there is no more. This was why I was saving them up and rationing them. All done now.

*hugs Ianto*

So for themes from these three audios we have: Read more... )
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that was good. I want to listen again. :-) Read more... )

So that was a proper well done audio adventure with proper Torchwood in it.

:-)



In other news, my recorder box has apparently taken against Torchwood Miracle Day. I set it to record. It's still set to record. It's just it doesn't seem to think there's anything to record. It's got the light grey of 'still looking for something that matches' same like it has for recording Doctor Who, rather than the bright little red clock of 'hey, you pressed the record button, and we noticed!' I did too leave it so it had the red clock, but apparently on the relevant night it decided it did not. So. In other years that might be a problem. This year it's on the iPlayer with 2 months still to go, so I can take my time about it. We live in the future.

Still don't know if I want to watch it.

Do want to listen the next audio adventure now though.
but if I do that I run out of audio adventures.

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