Oct. 1st, 2013 10:14 am
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You know, every time I think the *rudeword* conservatives have reached their natural level, they find further to go. This week's idiocy is the suggestion that, in order to get unemployment benefits, people will have to sit in the unemployment office for 35 hours a week.

That's not about giving them skills or training or support. That's making them sit in detention for the terrible sin of having no job.

Think about it. 35 hours a week, in an office, with other people in the same situation, and maybe some dude employed by the government to make sure you turn up and stay there. That's the best use of anyone's time?

That's this government saying hey, no, actually you do not get to have your own life, being poor means obeying our every whim. Dance, puppets, dance!

FFS, we pay taxes, we pay National Insurance, and that means we're entitled to support when we need it. Even if we need it a really long time! And, okay, some of us have to look around the family tree quite a bit to find a tax payer, but the basic principle is society pays in so society can get it back out when we need it. This is our money.

But no, the rich sods in charge think there is some fundamental difference that applies to divide the workers and the... I'm not going to repeat their words for it, they've been using rude words for it lately, lets go with unemployed. And if someone becomes unemployed, that means it is secretly not their money any more, because it is secretly not their country. They just live here.

Can we vote these bastards away soon? Please? Nobody voted for this.

Oh, and while I'm ranting, did you see the thing about making people in the ESA WRAG group take any work offered to them? "Forcing sick and disabled people to take up offers of work". Can you guess why that won't work? They've taken the keywords out of the names, but this is the replacement for Incapacity benefit. The benefit is for people who cannot work. This group is for people who, in a couple of years, may become well enough to work. Forcing them to take up offers of work they cannot do, even by the government's own ridiculously stringent tests... how is that supposed to be remotely helpful? It's not, of course. It's just another hoop. But then it would be catch-22: if you're on the benefit that says you're too ill to work, you have to take up work, or they will take you off the benefit, which will mean you're no longer on the benefit that says you're too ill to work, which, hey, means you have to take up work. At no point in this cycle does the person in question become well. And the government keep expressing surprise that people remain on ESA for a long time. Yes, they do, because they remain fucking disabled.

/rant for the day.

god knows they'll say something else rant inducing soon enough.

Date: 2013-10-01 06:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] shahar-amar.livejournal.com
And, okay, some of us have to look around the family tree quite a bit to find a tax payer, but the basic principle is society pays in so society can get it back out when we need it.
You have sales taxes in the UK, right? Now unless people on benefits only get vouchers to buy food and clothes or you are talking about infants, everyone pays at least those, because every one must eat and occasionally needs new socks.

Yes, people who have more money to spend, own a house or other things that might have their own tax attached, pay more taxes than someone with barely enough for neccessities, but we all consume, we all pay sales taxes and therefor we all contribute to what the governments of out respective countries have to spend.

Edited, because autocorrect insists on random capitalisation. grrr.
Edited Date: 2013-10-01 06:36 pm (UTC)

Date: 2013-10-01 07:29 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] beccaelizabeth.livejournal.com
I had specific mentioned National Insurance and that's paid from payroll, hence not paid in this house. But yeah, we have VAT, sales tax, and we all pay that. So are still taxpayers. And it would be nice if the government cared.

Date: 2013-10-01 09:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] shahar-amar.livejournal.com
I'm sorry, I must have overread that bit. The social security stuff (unemployment, health and pensions) come out of payroll over here as well, but I'm sure if that money is not enough at a certain point, they do have to substitute with other tax money.

Unfortunately governments only care about people being taxpayers, if they can use it for their own rhethoric. Or if the taxpayers concerned are influential like big business.
Edited Date: 2013-10-01 09:54 pm (UTC)


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