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beccaelizabeth) wrote2015-04-11 11:24 am
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Write a thousand words.
Write a thousand words about Clint Barton and Phil Coulson.
Okay.
I like the lines around Phil’s eyes, and I like how Clint has an expression with his whole face cause it’s interesting shapes now. Like, when it was just smooth then he looked kind of creepy… okay, no, I only saw him playing vampires and killers, possibly he was being creepy on purpose and it’s nothing to do with how his face was all smooth. But it could look really blank. Plus the murder stare. Not cool. But now his face is all alive and moving, and you can see the mileage, and I don’t know any actual polite way of saying that despite me thinking of it as a really good thing. I love how his face lights up when he smiles, how his whole face gets in on it. He smiles real good. And actually so does Phil? But in a different way. Lines around his eyes. Looking real. They look like real people, not pared down dolls. And they look a decent age, not like babies.
… everyone is babies when I look back twenty years. Like I look back on my favourite characters and from here they’re all babies. I want to make sure they wrap up warm and maybe kind of eyeroll at their emotional cluelessness… though actually that kind of doesn’t wear off, there’s a lot of clueless middle aged guys out there in fiction land, and I continue to happily read about them.
I think we like it partly because we can fix it so easily? I mean, if they both think they’re nothing much and that nobody would like them, then tada, easy fix! We are fans, they have fans, we have a lot of practice at elucidating all the reasons they should have fans, we just have to make sure one other person sees them like we do and it’s all happily ever after.
Characters having actual real differences? Like how to fit their different priorities together? Science that doesn’t bow to military priorities, or diplomacy that isn’t ridden over by gun toting heroics, or just starting a family in the middle of all this versus waiting or even giving up and being a line of defence for the families back home… people having real substantive issues to resolve, that takes a few more words and a plot. People with actual political differences? Even comic book style ones? Civil War fic or X Men fic in general seems to pick a side and stand there and wait for everyone to congregate there, rather than keeping the complexities and having everyone move. I guess because we’re fans of one side or another? Except I’m kind of a fan of the conflict. Like, I love Ethan Rayne, but his version of the world seems somewhat difficult to live with, it just contains a lot of beautiful levers to apply.
So what kind of real substantive issues do Clint and Phil have? Well, there’s the faked his own death issue, that’s got layers. The one where Phil can’t trust his own mind and Clint could easily be having doubts of similar kind. But that one dissolves easily into a self esteem issue, like to solve it by their beloved trusting them and telling them how awesome they are? Except no, there’s actual mental health issues going on with people who are not the protagonists, so maybe the actual resolution is the unglamorous one where they promise to keep watch forever and to just accept that they’re both a bit disabled now but that they won’t let the other hurt them. I mean, I’ve read a lot more fics that concentrate on explaining how it wasn’t Clint’s fault so it wasn’t Clint’s doing so of course he’d never do it again than I have fics where Phil has an actual plan for watching his own back so Clint can’t do it again and can therefore relax. Same like Phil ought to be worried he’ll start carving on someone, seeing as others did that, though I suspect that storyline is going to be considered resolved now. But if Phil has some compulsion problems and a reasonable fear it’ll progress like that one guy? He needs someone who’ll keep watch and who can promise to stop him. That’s what he was asking for from May. He was asking the wrong way, he was saying to kill him, but he needs someone to stop him. And her plan would work, the middle of nowhere plan, though having an actual mental health care facility would probably work better. They’d just be a danger to themselves and others on whole other levels because of HYDRA’s continued interest in the contents of their head. So they’d have to be very, very secure. I imagine Peggy’s facility is super secure, because dementia means the official secrets act gets very fuzzy, sadly.
But then there’s other layers of issues one could have with SHIELD and the actions of SHIELD agents. Like, Clint knows he was used poorly by Loki, but then HYDRA came out of the shadows, so he’s left questioning who else he aimed at and shouldn’t have. Same like Natasha, but with room for it to be his first time through that, like it’s Phil’s first time to doubt the agency. Phil’s a company man and season 1 was all about him being really shocked to find out they would do to him what they do to others. That’s an issue right there.
Actually that issue right there is part of why I think Agents of SHIELD Coulson is straight? Like, if he’s anything other than a straight white cis male able bodied neurotypical guy, he’d have had to notice that sometimes this shit happens to people like him. His reactions in season one smacked of immense privilege. I can’t parse them otherwise.
… a relationship where one person is straight and somewhat surprised at their own attraction is another stalwart of fanfiction, but it’s like it got chewed dry a few years ago and tends to have happened in older fandoms.
If Clint sides with Steve on the whole reviving SHIELD issue – take it all down, it was SHIELD that was a problem – then that’s a biggie if he’s going to date the director of SHIELD. Or a director.
Ugh, the TV show just does not get into it deep enough. It’s like we’re meant to side with Coulson at all times, but Coulson… well, he is imperfect, obviously, and he’s way further towards current mainstream US policy than Steve was in Winter Soldier, so, I’m siding with Steve and really disappointed that Coulson wouldn’t. But then he’s probably a fan of the character, and that character hasn’t been Steve influenced for a really long time.
A thousand words achieved, just not very coherently.
this 'write every day' goal seemed simpler when I thought I'd make fanfic words. that's still the goal. I could still do that. I just... I would need to start. :eyeroll:
The other thing about Agents of SHIELD is apparently the season has restarted even in Britain? But I wasn't interested enough to notice. I think it's fair to say I'm not a fan :-( Of our fanfic Coulson, sure, there's games to play there, but of what the TV series is doing, no.
... but I'm annoyed because TV has too many white guys being centered at the expense of like everyone else, and yet I keep reading about white guys. my standards, they need work.
Write a thousand words about Clint Barton and Phil Coulson.
Okay.
I like the lines around Phil’s eyes, and I like how Clint has an expression with his whole face cause it’s interesting shapes now. Like, when it was just smooth then he looked kind of creepy… okay, no, I only saw him playing vampires and killers, possibly he was being creepy on purpose and it’s nothing to do with how his face was all smooth. But it could look really blank. Plus the murder stare. Not cool. But now his face is all alive and moving, and you can see the mileage, and I don’t know any actual polite way of saying that despite me thinking of it as a really good thing. I love how his face lights up when he smiles, how his whole face gets in on it. He smiles real good. And actually so does Phil? But in a different way. Lines around his eyes. Looking real. They look like real people, not pared down dolls. And they look a decent age, not like babies.
… everyone is babies when I look back twenty years. Like I look back on my favourite characters and from here they’re all babies. I want to make sure they wrap up warm and maybe kind of eyeroll at their emotional cluelessness… though actually that kind of doesn’t wear off, there’s a lot of clueless middle aged guys out there in fiction land, and I continue to happily read about them.
I think we like it partly because we can fix it so easily? I mean, if they both think they’re nothing much and that nobody would like them, then tada, easy fix! We are fans, they have fans, we have a lot of practice at elucidating all the reasons they should have fans, we just have to make sure one other person sees them like we do and it’s all happily ever after.
Characters having actual real differences? Like how to fit their different priorities together? Science that doesn’t bow to military priorities, or diplomacy that isn’t ridden over by gun toting heroics, or just starting a family in the middle of all this versus waiting or even giving up and being a line of defence for the families back home… people having real substantive issues to resolve, that takes a few more words and a plot. People with actual political differences? Even comic book style ones? Civil War fic or X Men fic in general seems to pick a side and stand there and wait for everyone to congregate there, rather than keeping the complexities and having everyone move. I guess because we’re fans of one side or another? Except I’m kind of a fan of the conflict. Like, I love Ethan Rayne, but his version of the world seems somewhat difficult to live with, it just contains a lot of beautiful levers to apply.
So what kind of real substantive issues do Clint and Phil have? Well, there’s the faked his own death issue, that’s got layers. The one where Phil can’t trust his own mind and Clint could easily be having doubts of similar kind. But that one dissolves easily into a self esteem issue, like to solve it by their beloved trusting them and telling them how awesome they are? Except no, there’s actual mental health issues going on with people who are not the protagonists, so maybe the actual resolution is the unglamorous one where they promise to keep watch forever and to just accept that they’re both a bit disabled now but that they won’t let the other hurt them. I mean, I’ve read a lot more fics that concentrate on explaining how it wasn’t Clint’s fault so it wasn’t Clint’s doing so of course he’d never do it again than I have fics where Phil has an actual plan for watching his own back so Clint can’t do it again and can therefore relax. Same like Phil ought to be worried he’ll start carving on someone, seeing as others did that, though I suspect that storyline is going to be considered resolved now. But if Phil has some compulsion problems and a reasonable fear it’ll progress like that one guy? He needs someone who’ll keep watch and who can promise to stop him. That’s what he was asking for from May. He was asking the wrong way, he was saying to kill him, but he needs someone to stop him. And her plan would work, the middle of nowhere plan, though having an actual mental health care facility would probably work better. They’d just be a danger to themselves and others on whole other levels because of HYDRA’s continued interest in the contents of their head. So they’d have to be very, very secure. I imagine Peggy’s facility is super secure, because dementia means the official secrets act gets very fuzzy, sadly.
But then there’s other layers of issues one could have with SHIELD and the actions of SHIELD agents. Like, Clint knows he was used poorly by Loki, but then HYDRA came out of the shadows, so he’s left questioning who else he aimed at and shouldn’t have. Same like Natasha, but with room for it to be his first time through that, like it’s Phil’s first time to doubt the agency. Phil’s a company man and season 1 was all about him being really shocked to find out they would do to him what they do to others. That’s an issue right there.
Actually that issue right there is part of why I think Agents of SHIELD Coulson is straight? Like, if he’s anything other than a straight white cis male able bodied neurotypical guy, he’d have had to notice that sometimes this shit happens to people like him. His reactions in season one smacked of immense privilege. I can’t parse them otherwise.
… a relationship where one person is straight and somewhat surprised at their own attraction is another stalwart of fanfiction, but it’s like it got chewed dry a few years ago and tends to have happened in older fandoms.
If Clint sides with Steve on the whole reviving SHIELD issue – take it all down, it was SHIELD that was a problem – then that’s a biggie if he’s going to date the director of SHIELD. Or a director.
Ugh, the TV show just does not get into it deep enough. It’s like we’re meant to side with Coulson at all times, but Coulson… well, he is imperfect, obviously, and he’s way further towards current mainstream US policy than Steve was in Winter Soldier, so, I’m siding with Steve and really disappointed that Coulson wouldn’t. But then he’s probably a fan of the character, and that character hasn’t been Steve influenced for a really long time.
A thousand words achieved, just not very coherently.
this 'write every day' goal seemed simpler when I thought I'd make fanfic words. that's still the goal. I could still do that. I just... I would need to start. :eyeroll:
The other thing about Agents of SHIELD is apparently the season has restarted even in Britain? But I wasn't interested enough to notice. I think it's fair to say I'm not a fan :-( Of our fanfic Coulson, sure, there's games to play there, but of what the TV series is doing, no.
... but I'm annoyed because TV has too many white guys being centered at the expense of like everyone else, and yet I keep reading about white guys. my standards, they need work.