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beccaelizabeth) wrote2024-02-13 04:53 pm
beccaelizabeth) wrote2024-02-13 04:53 pm
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I'm having the cranky sort of bored when you have all the things but whichever things you start on turn out to be Not The Thing.
Not even Doctor Who.
Or not that Doctor Who.
I'd like to listen to Torchwood but I'm waiting on the next new Torchwood.
Also I know I will get more Ianto (yaay) but I think I want the Ianto that has been in my head since playing Wrath of the Righteous, and the only one who knows that Ianto is me.
Which is why writers do the thing, but, nobody wants a write up of a playthrough of a video game where you just so happened to name the player character after a blorbo, and, nobody who wants to hear about Ianto is going to find his exploits after the worldwound particularly comprehensible anyway, because too much context is from the game.
Also the whole thing with Pathfinder is starting with someone New and ending up with someone Legendary, which in the case of Wrath of the Righteous means actual level 40, as in twice reaching the pinnacle of a particular class. Which makes no sense outside of a mythic context. And in mythic play means he can and has picked fights with demigods *and won*.
Basically if we port him back to the Whoniverse he has the levels to be the Doctor, and the knowledge to pop over to the Abyss or Elysium for fun, which is kind of as mobile as a TARDIS but the angels are nicer.
Having won Wrath of the Righteous makes you thoroughly out of scale to regular humans, which is the interesting bit of the story. I mean you fight the war thinking about After, and the nice getting married and settling down bits, but if you actually do that you ... realise you are the Slayer walking away from Sunnydale. Like sure the Hellmouth is closed and there are other people with your power level... well not level 40, that's not achievable without the fights with gods part, but, like, very top tier power. But the problems of every other place on the planet are going to be so much easier for you to solve than for anyine else. Even the residual problems on the Worldwound, except if you do that, the people who want to worship you or make you king will know where to find you, so you'll have to either become the ruler of nations you just wanted to set free, or... hide forever? And the worship thing seems like a problem.
Ianto's playthrough didnt end with becoming a deity. On purpose. Because played him atheist and trying to get the gods to sod off home and stop letting their wars screw up the planet.
Except there's always going to be at least one god on Golarion so then what? When the gulf between demigod and full deity is basically thqt the actual gods dont have hitpoints and one getting actually dead shook everyone's ideas of possible. But there's a disaster waiting to happen, so the temptation to try it...
But no, all that's over, can rest.
War on the Worldwound is over, can go home now, but... so many other things to do.
Either he's going to try and speed run every other adventure path on the planet (maybe skipping the first few books worth of leveling up), or he's going to...
you know, much like the Doctor, I can't really imagine someone who got to that level the hard way actually quitting.
Like sure it sounds nice, but how?
Ianto would want to get home, but, also, would want to make sure no trouble could follow him home.
The latter is the tricky part. Golarion actually knows Earth, there's two Adventure Paths with sections set there, though I've played neither. Both are set like a century ago, but one gets there via dancing hut, so making that a TARDIS in Whoniverse is not hard.
I kind of want to bring that Ianto back into contact with Jack. Because their whole dynamic either has to change or becomes deliberate roleplay. I mean, not just because Jack is no longer the boss of him, but because this Ianto has been through things Jack never has. Has got used to a level of healing where 'what would Jack do' is a valid problem solving method, twice even, as long as Daeran is in range. Has been throwing himself at everything. Got through the Abyss by showing off on the Abyss' own terms. Got back to his core self after that, somehow. Is, basically, the main character. Even if Jack still has immensely more experience.
Ianto could actually be relieved just to meet someone who has done more than him.
Rough bit though, high level Mythic characters can become as immortal as Jack, just losing time instead of chances, but that's part of what Legend Ianto rejected on the way out of the Abyss. Like, how do you explain that, hi had a good look at immortality could have joined you but the price was too awful?
Like Jack would *agree* and yet ow.
Canon Ianto has one set of problems that got cut off short. The End. Those are the only problems he ever has.
Legend!Ianto in my head has to deal with being one of the most skilled and knowledgeable humans to have ever lived, just about being able to back up 'I know everything', but because of that knowing how much worse things can get.
... and, also, having just as much of a mess of a love life as anyone else. Possibly more, because he has the old layers of feeling he's not important enough and the new layers of everyone else thinking he's so super important that's the only thing they see about him, plus a general feeling that with his Persuasion skills he could do all the deciding and *does not want* to.
That's just a different guy even if I played all the in between steps.
A lot of my characters get like this. Too many steps from canon to be in character but not enough to be original. It's from hanging out with them in my head for like decades. Like when you hug the toys too much.
Ah well.
I should go find something to read or some such.
Not even Doctor Who.
Or not that Doctor Who.
I'd like to listen to Torchwood but I'm waiting on the next new Torchwood.
Also I know I will get more Ianto (yaay) but I think I want the Ianto that has been in my head since playing Wrath of the Righteous, and the only one who knows that Ianto is me.
Which is why writers do the thing, but, nobody wants a write up of a playthrough of a video game where you just so happened to name the player character after a blorbo, and, nobody who wants to hear about Ianto is going to find his exploits after the worldwound particularly comprehensible anyway, because too much context is from the game.
Also the whole thing with Pathfinder is starting with someone New and ending up with someone Legendary, which in the case of Wrath of the Righteous means actual level 40, as in twice reaching the pinnacle of a particular class. Which makes no sense outside of a mythic context. And in mythic play means he can and has picked fights with demigods *and won*.
Basically if we port him back to the Whoniverse he has the levels to be the Doctor, and the knowledge to pop over to the Abyss or Elysium for fun, which is kind of as mobile as a TARDIS but the angels are nicer.
Having won Wrath of the Righteous makes you thoroughly out of scale to regular humans, which is the interesting bit of the story. I mean you fight the war thinking about After, and the nice getting married and settling down bits, but if you actually do that you ... realise you are the Slayer walking away from Sunnydale. Like sure the Hellmouth is closed and there are other people with your power level... well not level 40, that's not achievable without the fights with gods part, but, like, very top tier power. But the problems of every other place on the planet are going to be so much easier for you to solve than for anyine else. Even the residual problems on the Worldwound, except if you do that, the people who want to worship you or make you king will know where to find you, so you'll have to either become the ruler of nations you just wanted to set free, or... hide forever? And the worship thing seems like a problem.
Ianto's playthrough didnt end with becoming a deity. On purpose. Because played him atheist and trying to get the gods to sod off home and stop letting their wars screw up the planet.
Except there's always going to be at least one god on Golarion so then what? When the gulf between demigod and full deity is basically thqt the actual gods dont have hitpoints and one getting actually dead shook everyone's ideas of possible. But there's a disaster waiting to happen, so the temptation to try it...
But no, all that's over, can rest.
War on the Worldwound is over, can go home now, but... so many other things to do.
Either he's going to try and speed run every other adventure path on the planet (maybe skipping the first few books worth of leveling up), or he's going to...
you know, much like the Doctor, I can't really imagine someone who got to that level the hard way actually quitting.
Like sure it sounds nice, but how?
Ianto would want to get home, but, also, would want to make sure no trouble could follow him home.
The latter is the tricky part. Golarion actually knows Earth, there's two Adventure Paths with sections set there, though I've played neither. Both are set like a century ago, but one gets there via dancing hut, so making that a TARDIS in Whoniverse is not hard.
I kind of want to bring that Ianto back into contact with Jack. Because their whole dynamic either has to change or becomes deliberate roleplay. I mean, not just because Jack is no longer the boss of him, but because this Ianto has been through things Jack never has. Has got used to a level of healing where 'what would Jack do' is a valid problem solving method, twice even, as long as Daeran is in range. Has been throwing himself at everything. Got through the Abyss by showing off on the Abyss' own terms. Got back to his core self after that, somehow. Is, basically, the main character. Even if Jack still has immensely more experience.
Ianto could actually be relieved just to meet someone who has done more than him.
Rough bit though, high level Mythic characters can become as immortal as Jack, just losing time instead of chances, but that's part of what Legend Ianto rejected on the way out of the Abyss. Like, how do you explain that, hi had a good look at immortality could have joined you but the price was too awful?
Like Jack would *agree* and yet ow.
Canon Ianto has one set of problems that got cut off short. The End. Those are the only problems he ever has.
Legend!Ianto in my head has to deal with being one of the most skilled and knowledgeable humans to have ever lived, just about being able to back up 'I know everything', but because of that knowing how much worse things can get.
... and, also, having just as much of a mess of a love life as anyone else. Possibly more, because he has the old layers of feeling he's not important enough and the new layers of everyone else thinking he's so super important that's the only thing they see about him, plus a general feeling that with his Persuasion skills he could do all the deciding and *does not want* to.
That's just a different guy even if I played all the in between steps.
A lot of my characters get like this. Too many steps from canon to be in character but not enough to be original. It's from hanging out with them in my head for like decades. Like when you hug the toys too much.
Ah well.
I should go find something to read or some such.