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beccaelizabethI have read handouts from class about Courtly Love.
They're very annoying.
They're all 'you can only love one person at once and it wears off if there's a new person' and 'jealousy is good' and 'must be secret or it wears off' and rubbish like that.
I now need to write a set of Jack/Ianto porn drabbles to go with the rules and totally splat them.
The one about modesty and decency is clearly a oops-we-missed-the-invisible-lift fountain porn drabble.
Actually, I can see Ianto believing a lot of this rubbish. In the books he's, er, not convinced about the depth of Jack's affections. And there's cute jealous Ianto about the soldier and project Indigo, or 'he's not that young'. But I don't see Jack thinking that jealous is a good thing and love wears off and you has to swap and all that.
There's a Rule of Courtly Love about how you shouldn't fall in love with someone you would be naturally ashamed to marry.
Jack: So... no incest?
Ianto is stuck somewhere between 'that needs saying???' and 'that's your only rule???'
Jack is all puzzled and trying to think of who else you wouldn't marry.
Well he'd know because he had a very annoyed century without civil partnerships, but aside from that.
The rules are a bit daft really. There's the one about not telling anyone and the one about not splitting people up (that's the only one on the list I think Jack would be cool with. Join in yes, split up no.) and then there's that rule about only if you'd marry them but then you add the rules together and apparently you can't get married, or possibly can only marry in secret, without telling a priest or anything. And then it turns out that love and marriage were not the same thing, so being married was not being in love (which, okay) and being in love was not getting married (er, what?) and therefor adultery was best (... *blinks* ...) which explains a lot about Lancelot.
Possibly there should be a Gwen drabble in there too. *facepalm*
I liked the bit where a woman was using the rules to get a bloke to go away. The rule is if you're really in love you'll submit to a woman completely and do like she says. So she asked this bloke if he was really in love with her and he said yes of course he'd do anything so she said go away and shut up, basically. So he did. Because he promised. But then he didn't shut up for long. So she complained, because he broke a promise.
I like it up to that point, but after that it was decided that asking someone to promise to go away wasn't fair, so she should just let him stalk her.
Blah.
It's all very well saying the rules were about some kind of spiritual improvement and trying to attain unity with some elevated ideal, but if you apply them to actual real women being actually followed around by creepy blokes then eeeeewww.
So I'm not so much liking the medieval version of love.
21st century is looking more promising.
They're very annoying.
They're all 'you can only love one person at once and it wears off if there's a new person' and 'jealousy is good' and 'must be secret or it wears off' and rubbish like that.
I now need to write a set of Jack/Ianto porn drabbles to go with the rules and totally splat them.
The one about modesty and decency is clearly a oops-we-missed-the-invisible-lift fountain porn drabble.
Actually, I can see Ianto believing a lot of this rubbish. In the books he's, er, not convinced about the depth of Jack's affections. And there's cute jealous Ianto about the soldier and project Indigo, or 'he's not that young'. But I don't see Jack thinking that jealous is a good thing and love wears off and you has to swap and all that.
There's a Rule of Courtly Love about how you shouldn't fall in love with someone you would be naturally ashamed to marry.
Jack: So... no incest?
Ianto is stuck somewhere between 'that needs saying???' and 'that's your only rule???'
Jack is all puzzled and trying to think of who else you wouldn't marry.
Well he'd know because he had a very annoyed century without civil partnerships, but aside from that.
The rules are a bit daft really. There's the one about not telling anyone and the one about not splitting people up (that's the only one on the list I think Jack would be cool with. Join in yes, split up no.) and then there's that rule about only if you'd marry them but then you add the rules together and apparently you can't get married, or possibly can only marry in secret, without telling a priest or anything. And then it turns out that love and marriage were not the same thing, so being married was not being in love (which, okay) and being in love was not getting married (er, what?) and therefor adultery was best (... *blinks* ...) which explains a lot about Lancelot.
Possibly there should be a Gwen drabble in there too. *facepalm*
I liked the bit where a woman was using the rules to get a bloke to go away. The rule is if you're really in love you'll submit to a woman completely and do like she says. So she asked this bloke if he was really in love with her and he said yes of course he'd do anything so she said go away and shut up, basically. So he did. Because he promised. But then he didn't shut up for long. So she complained, because he broke a promise.
I like it up to that point, but after that it was decided that asking someone to promise to go away wasn't fair, so she should just let him stalk her.
Blah.
It's all very well saying the rules were about some kind of spiritual improvement and trying to attain unity with some elevated ideal, but if you apply them to actual real women being actually followed around by creepy blokes then eeeeewww.
So I'm not so much liking the medieval version of love.
21st century is looking more promising.
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Date: 2008-11-21 08:54 pm (UTC)I'm looking forward to your porn drabbles!
Is anyone running another porn challenge any time soon?
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Date: 2008-11-21 11:03 pm (UTC)the rules
porn drabbles, and everything else, has to wait until I've done more reading.
the rule for today was read one chapter before I do other stuff.
... I still shouldn't have done other stuff.
:eyeroll:
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Date: 2008-11-22 12:22 am (UTC)Hoping porn drabbles happen sooner or later!
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