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I've seen people being proper anti a Buffy sequel on the grounds that they did it right the first time
which I have some sympathy for, though the original does continue to exist regardless.

Today I saw a gif set with some Sunnydale students in a corridor that made me think about what I would tell them if I was there
starting with 'boots then corset' and 'have one towel specifically for after hair dye or experience Regret', because this was sparked by their fashion statement, but:

What would the generation who had been through All That say to the newest 16 year olds?

And, for the sake of generating Story,
How would it be exactly the wrong thing to say?

It's like, every time I see people saying you should restrict social media and ban kids from having phones because
they meet demons on the internet
it just translates in my head to
stay isolated kids! never talk to anyone! definitely never listen to someone you don't already know!
we know how that works out!

... and yes, there's some real problems observed there, but, those solutions, they are problems in the making.

Original edition Buffy the Vampire Slayer had some pretty heavy handed Adults Are Useless moments
and Giles alternated between actually a person and In The Role Of Patriarchy
but in theory everyone does things because they think they'll make the stuff they care about turn out for the best.

Even Cruciamentum justified itself to Watchers by saying the girls that went through it were better at surviving
(ignore the cause and effect).

So that was a generation of
toughen up, it never did me any harm!
actually doing a lot of harm.

Or MOO, which was a one episode demon mind controlled gag, but, Mothers Opposed to the Occult, bundling the Slayers in with the Demons. Both being so much danger. Make it a mind control thing and then never have to deal with consequences!

Or, make it where the story lives, the rejection of the perceived dangers.

The idea that you can stay safe from all harm by Spotting The Wrong Sort and keeping them uninvited
clashes with the reality that you can't tell who is going to do Wrong until they're doing it (game face on).

... of course these days precautions in place to filter out people with a high temperature work pretty well for spotting someone with a very low one. The tech barrier to spot every vampire is waaaaay lower now. So what's the consequence of that?

With one or two vampires with a soul you don't get much fallout from Spot The Wrong One By Their Blood (temperature)
but if there's been progress in re ensoulment, and now there's dozens, hundreds?

Story in that.



I also want to see the story deal with trans Slayers. Every girl in the world who might have the power will have the power... so who defines girl?



I mean when you get down to it I am less and less satisfied with story that suggests
Hit Things Until They Stay Down
is a viable strategy.

Fighting demons with cathartic violence just doesn't work for me like it once did.


But, there's a lot of story in taking what we learned last time
and showing how it's just not a good fit now.

So we can very much work with that.
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Sometimes, while tumbling different canons together and inserting ideas and seeing what happens if you twist, I come up with a Wouldn't It Be Cool If
(or a You Brilliant Bastard, when I am in fact the one imagining the Bastard)
and you'd think from there I could have Story
but
usually by then it is so many steps away from canon it does not resemble canon sufficiently to show its face as fanfic
and yet
relies on canon too specifically to call original.

I have a lovely sequence of Buffy canon plus Pathfinder rules plus a way of handling 'stealing magic' that neither canon quite allows but that can be hung up between them
that all spins Willow as on a downward spiral
to becoming a Lich Lord.

(If magic is a piece of your soul, ala Ka and Ba in Pathfinder Adventure Path Mummy's Mask, then Willow stealing magic in season six leaves others with negative levels they can heal except for Rack, who just dies. Maybe she gets to keep that bit of him. That's all necromancy stuff. But Willow doesnt treat it as a distinct danger, it's just Magic Addiction TM. Maybe she keeps doing it when she thinks its really important and just doesnt notice the soul fragments piling up? Or uses them. But then she puts a piece of her magic into Buffy in the comics. Which could be a Contingency spell, or could be a bit of her soul, making Buffy a Soul Cage for a Lich ala Pathfinder. Not that you can usually use a person for that, but someone managed it with a kind of mould when they really screwed up, so who knows. And! Then future!Willow the probably undead one who needed Buffy to kill her? Would just snap back to her Soul Cage to regenerate ie past Buffy. Maybe possess her younger self, since that body is handy. Time travelling undead Willow could do so much damage!)

But the problem is? Why do I want Willow to be the big bad?
I don't, really.
And most of those twists are a step side from either ruleset.

So it's just, like, sort of cool? Tada, a new big bad of magic and undeath, who got there a little piece at a time by accident, figuring it was all necessary, for her friends.

Now what?

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Still not convinced this one is going anywhere but
someone who is utterly convinced
they can combine
undeath
and
good?

Has story.



... problem is you have to choose the metaphor pretty carefully and navigate a lot of pit traps to get non toxic story out of it...




Someone coming back from a dark future to avert it, where their previous path was just taking all the power for themselves in confidence they's use it right...


I don't know, this one needs tumbling some more.
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Today I did most of the Wednesday tasks (cleaner day worked, laundry didnt)

and continued rereading a very long fic
https://archiveofourown.org/works/13727895?view_full_work=true

I've reread Initiation more, by the same author, and have left myself a to do item to comment on it because it is very very good, but so far I continue to be quiet. So I'll rec it here.
https://archiveofourown.org/works/28820259

I keep trying to think up a story that changes things the way I'd want to, to imagine something that doesn't leave me with that bitey feeling of things need done, but I am currently stuck on All Problems All The Time.

Specifically with Giles and Ethan I find myself thinking nothing is really solved if Giles has his canonical attitude to magic. Ethan's attitude to magic makes things difficult for everyone, but also shows them possibilities they hadnt thought of. Which generally pisses them off. But. They live in a world where this very real avenue to power is cut off by pure ideology and refusing to teach.

But the other fiction world I spend a lot of time imagining, Pathfinder rpg's Golarion with the attempted apocalypse at least every six months, seems like it illustrates what happens when everyone and anyone can get magic. Lots of kaboom. Extraordinary amounts of kaboom. And a lot of undead even compared to the Buffyverse.

People want magic the other guy doesnt have. When everyone has magic you spend most of yours on protection spells or you get flattened going out the door. Or mind controlled. So so much mind control. You boost your resistance at every opportunity or do someone else's bidding.

Kind of reminds me of the early promise of the internet vs actual ai spewed garbage and malware. Something that should be magical is mostly tedious because otherwise it's all... Warren and the Trio.

But trying to keep the power safely controllable is how the Buffyverse ended up with One Girl In All The World.

... would be nice if the follow up stories after season 7 actually played through like handing out power had up sides...

Trying to imagine a balanced sort of attitude to magic, a safe enough world, an ethical framework you could teach at magic school, entrance exams for magic school... I mean unless literal everyone has magic you get a form of inequality as unequal as the magic economy is from the everyday survival sort of money in rpgs. Magic users have choices, everyone else has problems.

But if everyone has magic everyone also has problems.

So it's a tricky one to imagine.



But if I read in fic Giles swearing to never do magic again, or even never do magic with Ethan, that's... wrong. Like swearing to make himself small. That's not a useful or self actualising response to realising how bad he screwed up. Power is still there, still part of him, so even without the metaphor layers the idea the only right thing he can do with power is give it up or give it away is just... too limited.

So it's a difficult problem.

Even before you get to the specifics of
what is magic for
and what do they need magic for?

Because he used it for escape, the sleepwalker, and that goes poorly.

But there's so much else.

Unless it's a magic as drug use metaphor again, which goes poorly with the gay metaphor magic and the magic as actual power.



I have a little daydream about entrance tests for magic school
where they screen out all the TERFS and transphobes
because the fundamental principle of magic
the one thing you have to believe in order to do magic
is
Things Change, If You Make Them Change.


I kind of think that's what Giles gave up. To do his tweedy best to fit in and make himself safe. He wrapped himself in tradition and gave up on change.

Which changed in later seasons.

So he logically should go back to magic.



But I keep turning the thoughts over a bunch without coming up with anything solid or story worthy.


As I have been for rather a lot of years if I think about it.

Ah well. Worth thinking anyway.
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I think the Ethan Rayne I've been building up in my head for the last twenty odd years got political in ways other people's fic mostly doesn't.

I keep thinking about Giles/Ethan because order meets chaos and new creative possibilities emerge between them.
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I also feel like dropping Ethan into Golarion to show him the careful what you wish for world, the high magic everyone can do this world, post multiple apocalypses.

Easy enough to use canon from both sides to get him there, multiple Adventure Paths have characters go from Golarion to Earth, and one has time travel in case anyone wants to complain about timelines not lining up.

Plus it's pretty easy to imagine him going 'anywhere but here' after canon left him.
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I dont know, I havent pulled together a coherent story yet, just...

There were so many problems in the Buffyverse and giving the power of epic punching to even a really large number of young women doesn't seem likely to fix them all.

Neither would magic, but wouldn't it be fun to try?


So I'm trying to think up an Ethan shaped world, and see how Giles would balance it out, instead of the other way around.

I feel like Giles probably thinks the world is basically okay, apart from all the demons and undead and cults tearing holes in the world, and that's pretty frustrating.




I keep on getting focused on villains because they keep being the ones saying
This Is Not Okay
and, well, *gestures at everything*


The people who want to preserve the world have an important point, but they can't be the only ones driving, you know?


So.


Don't reckon G/E will be the key to sorting out the worlds problems
but wouldnt it be fun trying?

Passion

Apr. 5th, 2017 03:47 am
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Also also Buffyverse meta:

That one review that made it all about bad boyfriends... okay, I get where you're coming from, Buffy had a fascinating map in that respect, though what is with all the Riley erasure and simplifying it down to Didn't Love Him?

But they seemed to conclude with saying passion is what makes life worth living, and meant specifically romantic passion.

And I mean, they might have been quoting? "If we could live without passion, maybe we'd know some kind of peace. But we would be hollow." That sort of thing.

But, small point to remember, that was serial killer Angelus talking.
We do not uncritically accept the admittedly artistic monologues of serial killers.

Saying without romantic passion, the kind that leads us into bad relationships, our lives would be empty? Eeew. I mean, way to write off aro aces there. But also, eeew. And saying we have no choice about who we love? Yeah, but, no. Love is a choice. You wake up every morning and put the work in. You learn someone and learn how to see them. You decide to fit your lives together. And love is a promise. A commitment to act a certain way, in the beloved's best interests. And yeah, love and passion can turn up for unhelpful people, but, after that, you grow it or you don't.

And granted I'm sitting here perpetually single and baffled by most humans, but still, pretty sure I'm right even for people with the big overrides in their heads. We get plenty of choices. Just some are more appealing than others.

Plus how can someone see fandom and only understand passion as a romance thing?

... wait, 'ship wars, fic read as primarily about a 'ship, I can see it. But. Wrong.

People get full of energy for many things, and it can lead them astray in far more contexts, or drive them on to greatness.

Forgetting that and flattening every relationship that doesn't work to bad boyfriend passion? Does story such a great disservice, let alone people.

Buffy had many passions and many loves and each of them changed her and helped her and hurt her in various ways, because bumping into other humans does that.

But romantic passion isn't the only way to do it.
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I have been reading all the things about Buffy because 20th.
... many people are not particularly fussed about evidence if it gets in the way of their preferred reading, especially if that evidence is a 'ship.
I mean you can read Willow and Buffy as single in the last season, and learning to love themselves etc etc, but in Willow's case you have to ignore the actual sex scene, and Buffy ends the show by saying I Love You to a guy, it's just he happens to be on fire at the time. But single. Because feminist.

It is not in fact more feminist to be single. The trick to writing feminist relationships is to make them actually about the woman and her needs. Stuff like putting her career first and listening to her and doing what she actually says she needs and being emotionally supportive. In an ideal world stuff like woman sees guy thinks he's worth pursuing and does so successfully. Because then it's about her choices. The only things that are not feminist about relationships are when it's about what a man wants and can talk her into, and it reflexively centers the man. And oh look, with Willow, real easy to avoid, seeing as there's no man in there. And yet, plural times, I seen this interpretation.

There's nothing wrong with being a wife or mother, it's just when people are ironed flat to fit into stereotypes of those roles there's a problem. Just like there's nothing wrong with being a woman who kicks arse, but there's problems when she's flattened out into being just that (and second best at it). And the makeup thing? Makeup is fun for everyone, all people have the option to paint themselves colors, even if the guys mostly stopped at nail varnish. What is no fun is sticking women in the double bind where their character hates girly things and never spends time on them yet somehow is perfectly made up at all times, or ironing them flat into painted up pretty and then hating on them for vanity when they do the only stuff the story allows them.

Also feminist is giving men a full range of feelings and a wider range of wardrobe options and centering girly things for everyone. Because men get ironed flat too, and it's creepy weird.

And then there's single point authority through competition for dominance vs networks of multiple expertise in cooperation. The latter, apparently, is feminine? Because humans really like to sabotage themselves? I mean women compete, don't get me wrong, but the ideologies that say someone has to be lone loner lonely grimdark, that's apparently patriarchy. Because reasons.

Ugh.

But everyone who can stand up will stand up, could have the power, will have the power.

That's a much better and more effective way.

And that ending would not have been undermined if everyone walked away in one big polyamorous group, or got their emotional support with a side of romance as well as all the regular platonic stuff, so I don't know what show the reviewers were watching, but I like my one better.
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The thing is, about all I can think is, since when did I have twenty years of adult life? Surely I'm not old enough for this?
... it's not like I'm looking at forty from here...

I have about a bazillion tabs open right now because everyone is saying something col about Buffy the Vampire Slayer.

And it was a game changing feminist excellence, for all its flaws.

But for me it was fandom and friends and the first few years of my degree, including getting the message board for the Soulful Spike Society unblocked because I was doing cultural studies and we were there studying proper cultural texts.

... also because the random pep talks and cheerleading were on occasion how I got through the day, and the early years of the course.

Highlander was my first convention going fandom, and Highlander saved my life, but Buffy was the convention after that, and many more. And it saved my life at least as much. A number of three in the mornings have been survived with the help of Spike singing.

And as for the possibilities that opened up for all that thinking about Ethan Rayne...

... and all my icons from this great feminist show are blokes, which says something about me, but Willow and Tara, Faith's arc, Buffy standing up and saying hell can choke on her, and everyone who can stand up, will stand up...

those are the stories that get you through the dark.




So, now we just need to get on with making something that's twenty years better...

Hells

Aug. 4th, 2016 10:21 pm
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I was thinking on Buffy the Vampire Slayer, and the end of Angel, which I still haven't got around to rewatching because I just somehow can't commit to watching every character I care about suffer that bad and mostly die.

Specifically I was thinking about time differentials in hell.

Read more... )



So that's just a whole stack of problems, inherent in the throwaway concept that time in hell travels a hundred years in a day.

I'm not being real coherent about them, but, they're kind of giant.

So that's a whole stack of bunnies.
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Have watched 'Chosen'.
Emotional wreck of all the feels: now.



I always cry. And it's like happy but in the middle of this whole war movie they're doing, so also with the sad. All the feels.
And then Spike.



I've got to say though... as much as I adore this ending on many levels, it also leaves me kind of tired. Because Buffy's plan? Read more... )



I've also read people being very, very intensely against Buffy's choice here, on moral grounds. Read more... )



Drafting people into a war, morally dubious. Arming people who are already at war, much closer to cool. Giving people with a war around them a choice to take up arms?

That's what Buffy is trying to do, by her own words, and I can see nothing wrong with it.



Plus it's always the best answer, share the lessons, share the power, stand together, stronger.



Otherwise the story is about how hard it is to be super privileged, hot chicks with super powers, and, well, yeah, but. Kind of harder for the ones standing next to her, or in the town she isn't protecting.



I really love this episode, I love what Buffy and Willow do, I love Spike (Spike!), I get all the feels.

But there's a couple things I wouldn't write, if I was writing something like this again.




(also, I do intend to go back and write about... er, half of season 6 and most of 7? I just haven't yet. It's on the to do list. But if I don't sit down right at the end of each episode then the next one gives me fresh feels to write and also I want to see the next and the next and, well, then I watched them all.)


I have to say though, I feel weird about Angel season 5 after that ending. I mean, Spike did a thing! It... it feels really weird to be able to just skip to the next thing.


Also? Angel? Seems so very, very random and pretty much irrelevant, when he turns up. Read more... )

... apparently I have a lot of Angel feels and if you're B/A OTP then you should probably avoid reading that paragraph. Each to their own.

(But Spiiiiiike!)

(Spike)



And every girl in the world, ready to be strong.
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Storyteller is hard to watch. The whole 'it's good to get lost in a story' thing shown all dark side. It's squirmy and difficult because about all I got is stories.

It also persistently irritates me that at best they did the emperor clothes joke with Andrew thinking he's in the close. They kept hinting really loud that he's crushing on Xander or Spike, they played the Warren 'never really loved... hanging out with us' thing for a joke but the way Andrew reacts to 'Warren' coming back is... it's actually really sad, especially if for him it's the exact same thing that Tara talking to Willow would be... um, this was a sentence, it got away from me. But, I mean, they do stuff like that to laugh at, and like he's a joke, and they never fix it. Xander making jokes about going gay doesn't help. I like that Willow's love life gets to be a love life with important personal development and moving on, but I'm not happy with the guy side of things.

I do like the thing about repentance they have going on, and forgiveness. Like the whole ex demon team doesn't get to go for happily ever after without repentance, but when anyone tries to get stuck at the blaming themselves stage, they get moved on, with fairytale kisses even. And then forgiveness. But they don't get to skip a step. Andrew had to actually face what he'd done, he couldn't skip past it going lalala redemption arc now. Is good.
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Sometimes I just get really wound up about the lack of appropriate mental health services in urban fantasy.

... I know, but, I just watched Spike get so thoroughly screwed over in season 7, and it's just, like...

He did his best, right? He let people know he wasn't coping. Read more... )

So I get just very wound up, even entirely independent of the real world parallels where mental health services, especially for homeless people with a lack of documentation, can be a bit difficult to access. I just, I really feel that even vampires should be able to get help if they need it.

But instead there's just Buffy deciding when to use her stake. That's it. That's the only way their universe copes with having non humans with divergent thought processes and difficult dietary requirements.

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I do like how Buffy really worked to avoid treating mental illness with a good being killed.
This season.
And in season 5 the dude that did that was clearly the bad guy.

I'm not so keen on how there's Dru and now Spike making an apparent connection between mental illness and tendency to do violence. TV does that a lot.

But I get stuck getting upset about how nobody helped Spike until it got really, really bad. I'm not saying Buffy should have, because his victims really sincerely don't owe him care, but there should be someone who can help.
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Too tired to write up much, and I still need to do thinking on season 6, but
I remember now why I joined the Soulful Spike Society.
James Marsters is spectacular. The way he shades his performance into all those varieties of Spike-not-Spike. I just want to draw little hearts around his picture again.
... um, the feeling isn't new, I don't think I did the actual hearts thing.
... though I do have many of his picture.
I mean I've been following him around conventions long enough that its kind of its own reason, like, hey, I could see him again, cool. But reasons to be a fan?
<3 <3 <3

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I watched the whole rest of the season.
Once you get up to Seeing Red it's full of upsetting and I kind of have to let it play through or my feels get stuck.

It's nearly midnight and I need to sleep so I'll reserve actual full length write up for tomorrow, but

that is at the same time one of the more powerful and effecting pieces of drama I've ever seen
and really, really disappointing.

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Just... is this the story we get? Is this the story we needed?



It makes me tired just when it's also making its strongest points.
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Not very much to say about Dawn's issues and the demony reaction to them. It's a good example of the turn your problems into demons thing that BtVS does, just, you know, not making me feel meta.

Except for the stuff with Willow and magic. As I may have mentioned. That I have a few things to say about in the next couple episodes: Read more... )


As You Were bugs me. Read more... )


Season six is difficult to watch. Hang on, season 5 was difficult to watch too. Hmmm, whenever they've successfully tapped in to some real feelings and big huge things, it's difficult to watch. Mortality, depression, addiction, violence, real big stuff.

It's good stories, but also kind of not fun, because of the caring. Much feels, very ow.



It's reminding me why I wanted to do fanfic at the same time I remember how everything I'd have put in fanfic is kind of thoroughly chewed as fic topics by now. It just has so much stuff that needs another angle and a bit more work. Powerful stuff, but, not correct or complete, to my mind.
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Gone is less fun when you've heard James Marsters was not in fact having fun.

Rewatching in order means rewatching Doublemeat Palace. Other than 'I can get money' explaining the plot in later episodes, there's not a whole lot worth watching in Doublemeat Palace.

Having Anya's demon friend point out the thing where Xander criticises Anya and it's not cool kind of... if the vengeance demon is saying it then it's easier to dismiss. I don't think it should be dismissed.

And then there's 'Dead Things', which is really difficult to watch and super dark.
Read more... )



I don't know why this is the story we got. Interesting, yeah, but...
Why mess her up this precise way? Fighting depression, sure, that's cool, I liked Gone for that, but all this mess of hitting people or magic forcing them, that's misuse of their power, so why is that the important story? An important story I'll grant, but, I still feel like this show about women with power has problems with women with power. Hence the repeated stories of men feeling useless or now being useful as punching bags. It's messed up.



I think I'm looking forward to being done with this season.
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So two storylines come to a head in these two episodes, Spike/Buffy and Willow's misuse of magic.

And the thing is, on a lot of levels, they are telling the same story up through Smashed. Magic has up until now been the go to metaphor for sex. Buffy certainly compares herself to Willow. They've been using their respective poor choices to hurt and manipulate others in order to avoid feeling bad. But then the misuse of magic turns around and adds a physical drug addiction angle that's just... it shifts the story sideways into something that just doesn't pay off the build up.

So, Willow and magic: Read more... )

Not the right problem, very frustrate.



But hey, whole rest of season to go. Some fixings eventually ish. Shall see.
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You know the most frustrating thing about the magic addiction storyline is that up until Tabula Rasa it's pretty much perfect. Read more... )

But, that part hasn't happened yet this rewatch. Just Tabula Rasa.

Which this time was less funny.

Actually first there was Once More With Feeling, which I listened to this time mostly noticing the wobbly accents and how American it sounds. I know, weird, but I've been watching little TV and that often with the sound off, American is not what I usually listen to, so I keep actively noticing it.

Giles across these episodes... Read more... )


It's also vastly frustrating to me that a story about a woman finding her power and saving the world (a lot) is, repeatedly, a story about men feeling and in fact being useless, weak, knocked on the head a lot, standing in the way, unemployed because she doesn't need him any more. It's like... like when I've heard pitches for Supergirl stories that start 'Superman's off planet, because if Superman is around you don't need Supergirl'. Or it's like every paranoid nightmare of inverting the patriarchy. Women using their own power doesn't mean men are suddenly powerless, far from it. They don't need to be got out of the way to leave room for women to shine. If Giles was always the badass we know he can be that would make Buffy shine the brighter when he still needs her.


It's right up there with my frustration that Buffy might have power but she's portrayed thus far as wanting mostly 'to be like other girls'. The hell? Actually liking your power seems to be a symbol of badness, even when actually, everyone has power, like that one and only episode the whole school worked together. Power isn't something you have to be miserable about, just careful with.


Aaaand we've looped back to the other reason the magic addiction plot kind of sucks.

Because this girl power fantasy we've been watching really has a problem with women having power.

It's not cool.




Spike... if Spike is meant to be the bad boyfriend, at this point, I'm not seeing it. Read more... )


I like Spike. He's on a really interesting trajectory about rejecting evil and remaking himself. It's just that seems to have been rather on accident and involve readings counter to what writers have said about him?




It's a lot of interesting layers of story going on.
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I know I intended to speak about the back half of season 5, Read more... )

I like this Spike. And James Marsters is amazing. There's days I see him and get the giggles because he's a theatre geek and a properly nice guy and there he is being all big bad, and it's kind of like knowing William the poet is under there somewhere only funnier. But then there's other days I just rewind a few times to watch some particular reaction. He reminds me why I want to write, cause I want to give people a chance to do that.




... there's no neat segue from that much fangirling to any other topic. Onwards...


Willow crosses the line to outright creepy. Read more... )



Flooded is another episode that makes me go off on one about the devaluing of women's work under capitalism. And, okay, Buffy's slaying isn't stereotypically feminine, but there's evidence that the devaluing goes with the women doing it, not the particular work. The more women do it, the more the discourse surrounding a thing will suggest it's normal and natural and women should do it, usually for free.

Anya's right. Buffy is providing a valuable service and should be paid for it. She saves innocent people's lives, and exactly like a police officer or paramedic, she damn well should get paid for it.

... I can get very worked up about this.
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The thing that bothers me is the text seems to come down on the side of 'action is his reward'. Like, if this is a metaphor for unpaid work women always get lumbered with, the text doesn't seem very pro actually paying them.

Not cool.



So, that's todays thoughts. Big ramble. Many more episodes ahead.
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I just watched Riley leave Buffy. And I've got to say, good.

Not good that the guy felt that messed up in the first place. He got messed with biochemically, got depressed (see moping, drinking alone, sitting in the dark, and being convinced nobody loves him and he's useless now), went looking for extreme experiences to feel something through the grey, especially adrenalin rush stuff, and ended up really screwed up.

But he blamed Buffy for how he was feeling. Instead of saying 'I feel disconnected' he's all 'she's distant'. And I get the sinking feeling the source text meant to agree. Like, the writers actually think Buffy did something wrong. Xander's little speech as writer ventriloquism.

Problem though? It's utterly baseless. Read more... )



But the further it gets from the moment of production the more prominent the last problem gets:

Riley has a phone.

Riley has a mobile phone, in his pocket, which he used to phone the army guys in the previous episode. And which Willow then used to phone him. So Riley has a perfectly ordinary phone with a phone number the Scoobies know.

Buffy is in the alley behind the magic shop, which has a phone.

And Buffy has 20 minutes to get a message to Riley.



... the more we get used to everyone having a phone, the more egregiously stupid missing each other by seconds looks.



But okay, the writers wanted rid of reliable Riley, so they demolished him and sent him away.


Spike is fun, but a story that gets rid of the solid guy to make room for super drama is less fun this time around.



Also, I cannot understand why Riley didn't stake him. I mean, that's an ongoing problem, but Riley fake staking him just makes no sense no way up. Intervention of writer.




The story we actually saw, where Buffy is right and Riley couldn't cope with her being strong and in charge so he stopped doing what she told him and just pissed around trying to get a reaction, that's an interesting story about masculinity and the flaws thereof.

The story Riley and Xander tell us we saw? Ugh.

Just blame Buffy for her boyfriend being a dick while she was dealing with life and death stuff elsewhere. Why not. Ugh.



I think sometimes the liking Whedon stories is based on reading it one way up and the epic dislike is reading it the other way up but it's usually duckrabbit and both is there. Only sometimes he'll do something where it's all ducked up and then you just look at all the other times you thought it was rabbit and start to doubt it ever was.

Xander is so wrong. And if he's wrong, the story is interesting.

I just am making such yuck face at the idea the writers think he's right.
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It's hard to think of new things to say about something I've watched and written about so many times before.

Also, it's hard watching, when Grandpa was in hospital, and may be home now with cancer nurses and painkillers and not so much time left. There's nothing to do there, so I do nothing, but entropy and mortality and all that stuff, it is hard.

And that's the theme in season 5, even in played-funny small things like Anya freaking out and sulking cause she realises she's mortal now. Buffy vs death, powerless and losing. Starting watching in a low mood may be a mistake.

But there's an equally powerful theme of family, love, choosing each other. Read more... )


I like how the season feels coherent and character led. Buffy has problems, proper growing up problems where she doesn't get to be the kid cause her elder and younger needs her. That resonates.



But it's kind of not fun.

Eh, there's a lot more story to go, some of it will be fun, in between the bits that'll wreck me again.
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I have now finished watching season 4.

... I'm trying to have any thoughts about anything after A New Man, but I get far more worked up about them dragging Ethan away (they had no right! the military have no right to arrest people! what crime would they even accuse him of? Where's his lawyer! When was his trial! How do team good guy live with themselves about being so smug when he's being taken for 'rehabilitation'?) than I do about... most other things, possibly including much of real life. *sheepish*

So I try to muster any thought about anything else, and keep circling back.

New Moon Rising, compared to A New Man, makes me super annoyed. Oz actually and for real attacks someone, so everyone is willing to commit treason, piss off the soldiers, throw the rest of their lives away, to go get Oz back. Because friendship. And I like Oz, and I'd really like to just be cheering them on. But, well, Ethan. Fixes Giles' little demon problem, warns them about 314 which turns out to be Adam and the location of the secret demon triborg manufacturing lab, and for his sins gets dragged away and locked up while people make smug self satisfied faces.

... I kind of really want to smite Riley when he does that. But then he does indeed get pretty thoroughly smote.

Oz needs hugs though. He gets bit, he does his best to make himself safe, he finds out he's screwed himself over instead and he can only cope if he doesn't care. Ouch.

Also, Oz so cute, very bad when bad happens to him.

Capturing people and keeping them until they're determined to be a threat?
All this Initiative stuff looks much worse after the Guantanamo bay stuff. ... after. Wiki reckons "As of June 2015, 116 detainees remain at Guantanamo." From what I've read some of those are people they've decided are not in fact a threat, they're just... keeping them anyway. I really prefer it when my far fetched demons TV is a little more unrealistic.

I mean you can read it as metaphor for racial profiling and shit with not much stretch, but with the military thing, it just looks...

I have nothing new to say about shit everyone agrees is awful. Not going there, depressed enough.



So, metaphors: first three seasons, high school is hell. Fourth season, girls go off to college, guys spend a year feeling and pretty much being useless. Then the Yoko Factor and Spike's little speech about college making them grow apart. So that's the college year metaphor? Little weak.

The spell where it takes all of their good qualities, that Xander thought of more or less, not subtle, but pretty satisfying.

The whole military thing though, with Xander wavering between fake military guy and thinking of going to be actual military, and Riley there being the good soldier and then 'anarchist'... I still don't know what they were doing with that, or why it was to do with Buffy. I mean, it's her show, if there's going to be a military theme it kind of ought to be something to do with her. And she had her history of being given orders and then saying she graduated. So... something should connect those up.

The year seems very about guy issues. Like, the guys are the ones having issues. Buffy just has practical problems, which is a whole other thing and doesn't drive the plot so much.

Riley has arc. Challenges and problems and making big life changing decisions. A lot of arc.
But we're not watching the Riley show so really I'm wondering how this is about Buffy.

Willow has the Oz-then-Tara thing. But that had to be so subtext behind the magic. Annoyance. Cool in its way though.
I like Willow less this time around though, because noticing the misuse of magic thing and her arrogance towards other magic users right from the start.



I've been mentioning a lot not liking people, and I've been harsh to Xander. Partly that's because it has been a while since I rewatched like this and I'm surprising myself with how my perspective changed. They seem way more teenage and unlikeable than I remember. Since I remember them from being rather a lot nearer their age... guess it's only a surprise to me. So that's why I keep writing it down, it's like, what's with these people, not growing up when they're in reruns. :eyeroll:


Watching Buffy but not Angel makes Angel turning up just really, really random. And creepier. Like, Buffy has this whole life going on, and her ex turns up to beat up her new boyfriend? Got to say, Angel's issues? Not just the soul thing.

Riley is just a seething mass of jealousy and violence at several points too, but still.

The both of them need to grow up.



The Scoobies joining voluntarily and because they care about each other vs Adam and his creations being made by involuntary joining, people forced together by orders, hierarchy telling them who they should care about and trying to turn them into weapons... interesting stuff.

Kind of weaker when the First Slayer turns up to object? Like, the voluntary-involuntary comparison goes poof because there's this one spirit in there whether she likes it or not.

I like how Buffy is like yeah, no, waking up now.

I do not like how the First Slayer is described as animal and beast and then cast as a black woman with initially no voice, who gets told off by a white girl. Blergh.



BtVS has race issues.
... duh.
It bothers me in layers and I kind of have to set things aside as they come up if I'm going to stick around and enjoy watching more.


I pretty much am enjoying watching. Season 4 is not best. Has good points, but is not best.
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I'm lacking big thinking about Buffy of late. There seems to be a bunch about masculinity and violence, direct parallels between Spike and Riley, and Riley and Adam of course, plus some stuff about how useless Giles and Xander feel now they're not defined by their jobs. Giles and Xander keep trying to help with the violence cause they've got none jobs and want to be useful, Xander beats up Spike and it's a sign he cares, Giles gets all sad because nobody is scared of him any more. Spike of course refers to his lack of capacity to do violence in direct comparison to neutering. Masculinity and violence. Big thing.

... big thing covered by every other show ever. Bored? Kinda. I mean, not bored of the episodes, but not coming out with meta.

All of them feeling less masculine because Buffy is more successful at violence than they ever could be, and Spike and Riley eroticising that, that's a thing BtVS does a little different. Mostly if the girl is kick arse it's to teach a guy to be better than her by the end of the movie. Here she just stays better, consistently. Yaays.

The same sex desire metaphor in the magics, the way Willow and Tara have to be, er, subtle, and the way Giles and Ethan are at the pub... a couple of old mystics, sorcerers, the night is still our time... yeah, still liking that, except for the not trivial thing where not being allowed to show stuff sucks. But the metaphors are pretty and the guys at the pub are, well, I'm coming up with plausible and I don't know if that's what I mean? Giles responding when he thinks Ethan is calling him attractive, intense eye contact, history together... you can see it happening, and you can see it in those scenes.

Ethan and the Fyarl thing: you can read it as Ethan didn't do it. Way back at the start of Buffy, episode three, it was established that one way to undo every spell in progress was to kill the caster. But when Giles the demon breaks in to grab Ethan, Ethan says "I can't undo you if you kill me!" Okay, he could be lying about everything, but if true, it means it wasn't his spell.

If it was then it's a classic be careful what you wish for. Giles wanted to be scary.
But that could also mean he got very, very drunk and did something unwise to himself. Unlikely, sure, but if you want to tell that tale...

For G/E shippers there's the teensy problem of him apparently trying to get Giles killed when he tells Buffy "It killed Ripper and now it's trying to get me!"
He could simply be mistaken about how far gone Giles is, if he can't get back from there. He could be making a complex statement about tweedy Giles and his ongoing fight with his own Ripper side. Or it could just be mischief to cover his own escape. Granted Buffy tries to kill Giles because of it, but she epic fails. And Ethan predicted that, reckoned "You're only going to make him angry." If he don't believe Giles can be hurt then it's mischief, not murder.

But then there's "I've really got to learn to just do the damage and get out of town. It's the 'stay and gloat' that gets me every time."
He's saying he did damage, and should have run before Ripper caught up.

Probably meant to be Ethan then.

But there's loopholes available if you want them. Like, what was he even doing in the place a demon was meant to rise and didn't anyway?



... Ethan Rayne can be so much more interesting if you read a little depth into a character that's pretty much just an excuse for mayhem to happen. But mayhem of the insides to outsides sort, which is always very character based fun.



Giles chasing Professor Walsh because she called him an absent male role model, always funny, but again connecting masculinity and violence. Giles feels powerless and judged, because a woman is implying a woman made herself without him. So he gets big and scary at her. Because clearly it's fun to use threats to counter words. And clearly it's more funny because it's Giles, who is usually words guy. But it's a moment that comes from him, not Ethan, even if Ethan did give him the outsides to do it.


Rupert Giles: earning his nickname since the early 70s.


I'm dissatisfied with how they used Walsh. She was evil psychology lady, and some of that was clever. Introduced doing stuff like controlling the discourse by naming herself as both good and evil versions, smart on several levels, and funny from writers cause they know what we don't. Creepy stuff that reminds me of abusers when she controls Riley just by mocking or relabelling his feelings, so he's just being college boy when he's trying to have opinions. Makes him feel small and then tells him to make her proud, so all his self worth is supposed to come from her reactions. Reworking his base code, like Adam said. Must have taken a lot of creepy manipulative work. And then making soldiers that don't ask questions... that's such a wrong view of soldiers. So all of that is perfectly good evil overlord stuff. But it's wrapped up with Riley and Adam calling her Mother on different occasions, and the weird thing with watching Riley have sex and getting rid of his girlfriend. Creepy gendered stuff. With no matching good version. I mean, if they're exploring mothers, Buffy has one of those, but no, they're just contrasting with Giles for some reason, current teacher vs ex teacher, at a point Giles is distanced from Buffy. Also there's previous evil teacher ladies but no hint of comparison. Comparing what Walsh does to what Watchers did would be perfectly reasonable, but you have to reach to other seasons to do it. Which, okay, it's season 4 and you'd expect some stuff to just be background, but I'm dissatisfied with how it turned out. There should be more women, more mothers, more teachers.

... I'm watching Buffy and thinking there need to be more women, even though Willow and Tara and Anya and Buffy are all right there.

I'm quite a lot creeped out by how Xander treats Anya. I mean I know she's an ex-demon but the comparisons with her behaviour have her turning up on list of autistic characters, so this time every time Xander corrects her on social skills is kind of grating. Like she's not meant to have her own thoughts and feelings but has to fit the mask on to be acceptable to him. It's not that she's actually learning compassion and empathy and that good stuff, she's just being told 'we talked about this' and changing how she behaves. I feel like Xander doesn't actually like Anya, he just likes how she makes him feel, and part of that is him feeling like he has the knowings and can teach from a position of moral superiority.



I'm super grumpy today and don't know if it's the TV that's always grump making or me that's always in a grump. So it goes.



The first three seasons, the basic metaphor was 'high school is hell'. Okay. They shift to college, but after the room mate episode I'm unconvinced they upgraded to 'college is hell'. More of a general 'young adulthood is hell'. Everyone trying to tell you who to be and shape you into who they want, but at the same time leaving you to sink or swim and not supporting you like you were supported a minute ago. Not knowing how to relate to adults, who are now meant to be other adults like you, but get cranky if you treat them that way and make you feel weird. Being expected to make a quantum leap in maturity and then frowned on for thinking you're mature. The whole thing with the drugged Initiative agents seems less metaphorical and more just a thing in itself, but I guess the pressure to perform physically and mentally is a college thing. Even Willow's magical lashing out is the thing where having a little power does not always go so good. So the metaphors are still there.



I'll watch more episodes later.
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I added a whole bunch of cheesly to the leftovers of yesterdays quorn mince and dolmio pasta sauce and pasta. Six slices cut up small, heat leftovers for 3 minutes then add cheesly then heat three more minutes and stir. Melty cheese redistributes pretty evenly through pasta sauce and quorn mince. And it all tastes much better. Which is the first time I can say that about anything I've done with cheesly, usually it requires melting to be edible at all, but this time it just tasted good. I shall have to do this more. Especially because using teh quorn mince and teh dolmio sauce means having very many meals of sort of bolognese. Many. All at once. So finding some way to make the leftovers taste better than the first day? Yaays.


Also watched more Buffy the Vampire Slayer, up to Doomed.

Read more... )


I'm very much liking watching these, and when I get apparently sulky about their relationships and stuff it's in that way where you like watching the story but kind of want to talk to the characters before they do the thing again, only, well, it's repeats, they always do the thing again.

Only mostly though. Like, there's a lot of debate about the feminism of Buffy the Vampire Slayer, and I'm finding myself dissatisfied around the edges this time because women don't get to be strong and competent and confident. Like, confidence equals fail, that seems to be a sign they're going wrong. Powerful, burdened and apologetic, while spending a lot of time wondering why their love lives don't work, that seems more the thing. And then the guys are... not awesome, yet they live that equation where save the day means getting the girl. Or, well, girl gets the girl too, same way, save the day first. Only this time through I'm like, yeah, but. Because there's probably lots of people saving lots of days, and possibly they should be, like, not a bully? Not a stalker? Not following you after you say no? Not demonstrating they care primarily through beating things up? Especially that last.

But then I don't know exactly what I would want, or what precisely I mean, and it's mostly feeling grumbly around the edges.


I shall continue to watch more happily though.
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I double checked some of my nail varnishes. Some remained goo for hours until I wiped them off, so they're gone in the bin, boo. But the sparklies layers actually worked this time They must have just not combined well last time. So I still have my glitter for fingers. Yaay.


Buffy season 3... I haven't been thinking of much to say about it because I've already said and read so much about it, but it's still good TV.

The whole 'high school is hell' metaphor and turning common experiences into demons still holds up strong. Read more... )
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The whole glitter collection of nail varnish has gone sadly wrong, won't set any more. Boo.
So now only 7/10 of fingernails have teh same colours as earlier cause the other 3 came off because of glitter.

Instead I have two different silvers and a silver bullet. That last one was a surprise, the rest of the 60 seconds formulas have gone wrong, but there it is set and shiny. yaays.


Watched more Buffy.
Faith gets to go through stuff so Buffy won't quite have to. Read more... )



I like the story raising all this stuff.


I'm remembering why I have like a foot of Buffy related essay/philosophy books.

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