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*wonders where the pretty power walk with torches from the opening credits is from.*

And that "arming the human race against the future" is little bits different than he actually said in an episode. Which gives the weird impression he sits around doing voiceover for fun. Possibly while watching CCTV.

Jack + Weevil = flirty
*facepalm*
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There's moments I like in this ep, some of them even involving Owen, but watching it slowly in pieces like I do for these heavily commented on rewatch things the whole... chat up / seduction / invitation bit to Owen loses power and momentum. Like, it seems more stupid when the timing is interrupted.
Timing important.

There's stuff going on with Jack I hadn't at first noticed. Little moments.
And other stuff I had noticed, and vaguely *facepalm*ed about. But it's all consistent and with much continuity, so that part is yaay.

And the whole team gets to play, and have stuff they're good at, so that part is extra yaay.


Dark, but interesting.

So I'm having a thought, and it may need to wander around the page a bit and be repeated at some time not 0520 before it entirely makes sense.

but

A thought about 1-04, Ianto, and what is obvious inside and outside the 'verse.

And also about who is right, and when, and how.

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So after that idea wandered around all over the place, my conclusion is:

It's not as obvious to Ianto.

It's a foregone conclusion to Jack.

And to the audience it depends what genre we think we're in.



From no character's value set is the final solution the ideal one, but it may be the only one they can manage with their current resources. But. I'm still not sold on that - there were possibilities not tried at all. And that makes Jack just that bit darker, and Ianto not entirely wrong at all.

First new thing I notice?
"Hey, I've got those trousers!"
... yes, me and corpse-on-the-right have the same fashion sense.
*facepalm*
... although, it does suggest a really *unusual* costume choice for the next convention...


Spoilers under the cut, obviously
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I do love that stopwatch scene.
... I've already watched it half a dozen times. I can stop for a while. Really.

... after just one more ...

Yes, this is the one I swore I'd never ever ever watch again.
I have found it occupies quite disproportionate amounts of my brainspace. I think about it almost as much as I think about Cyberwoman. It won't go away.
So I'm going to watch it through to the end and hope that makes it finish properly.

Already I have learned that the amounts of ick have been successfully edited in my memory, so it's even more gross than I expected. Oh dear.

But there's stuff going on with Ianto which is actually interesting.

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I started watching at around 1800 and here it is 2133. That's a very different way to watch. Seen all through, the tension builds in the way the writers intend, under their control. Now I have a pause button. And I'm watching shields up, fully in the know of where they're going, and with my brain on. Watching to see how it is done. I'm slightly nauseated, true, but I'm not half as freaked out. Not much freaked out at all. More fascinated by the technique, and by the character arc stuff I can pull out and isolate from the plot.

Ianto is all kinds of fun in this one.

Actually they all are.

I think I must admit, this is rather a good episode. In character, team work, roles assigned and distinct, and a whole lot of scary.

I just still feel cheated by the genre it turned out to be.



According to the online word count thingy I just used, that comes out at 5505 words.

... why is it I can't manage that many for homework?
Mind you, it would be about five-ten times too much, but.
*sigh*

I've definitely had a lot of thoughts about this before, yet I still love the episode. And watched it in that way my brother watches his videos that drives me nuts, rewinding practically every scene and watching it over and over. But there's so much to see. Watch Jack and watch Ianto and you have two complete stories.

The more I watch the less I find not to like in this ep. Which has a lot to do with Ianto.

There's a lot about Jack going on in the not exactly subtle subtext. Loyalties and people being gone and that. He manages to be a massive hypocrite at the same time as suggesting he really has switched sides. Which as shadowing on what might happen later makes it make more sense it was all about 'her' because she is gone so... There might be a so.



Okays, I have not so much to say about this that doesn't need to go in fic. So I go watch 1-05.

Watched the DVD
Everything Changes and Day One ( Read more... )

All done. Either I need to sleep or watch more episodes.

Sleep is adviseable but it's all I've done all day/week/month and I'm rather fed up of it.

Okay, third viewing ( Read more... )
... Can you imagine Ianto meeting the Doctor?
The coffee-tea wars commence!

... note to self, icon ...




Yeah, all this also had a plot, but once the episode is over so is the plot, more or less. The emotions and relationships are what keeps going in the next ep.
With any luck, anyways.



*re-reads*

you know, it isn't actually like I get more coherent on subsequent viewings.
:eyeroll:

I watched 1-12 again.
I'm sure I had thoughts in the middle somewhere
but by the end I was just

OMG-kissing!!!!!-OMG

*facepalm*

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I could try being less wound up / involved / passionate about TV but... where's the fun?

It's not an obsession it's a 'special interest'.





PS - vote - does this icon need modification?

*VERY BIG GRIN*

Yes!

That was so cool!

Also, I totally beccaelizabeth.livejournal.com/863575.html#cutid1
https://beccaelizabeth.dreamwidth.org/859677.html
called it. Score!

And the stuff I was afraid of didn't happen.

I mean, it wasn't quite everything my shippy little heart desires, but damn it was closer than TV usually gets. And considering the dance it has to do? Very, very close.

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I really, really, really liked these eps. They're the kind of ending that means I can like earlier stuff better. I can go back over stuff and make patterns. Love that.

And also, there was kissing.


*very very very happy grin*




bonus: being currently nocturnal, staying up to watch the small hours repeats will be no hardship at all. Excellent. :-)

Attempting coherence...
Parts of that I was bored with. Other parts make me hopping mad.
But the bits of character stuff going on around the edges? Those I liked.
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Conclusion: Most of the ep well put together. Lots of character stuff shown. Plausible reactions and a plot without horrible leaps. Nice use of genre stuff.
And yet. I think I might hate this second only to Greeks Bearing Gifts.
... maybe a large gap, more sick than rage, but still. Hate that ending.

Torchwood - made even more sense on second viewing when I was watching not reading. ( Read more... )

Yes, I watched the after midnight repeat again.
I'm not obsessed, I'm focused.

rewatched the episode
always find I watch the faces more on second watch, first being more about the subtitles. bit of a drawback, I know.
ANYways

seemed to clunk even more this time. I didn't miss any plot developments, they really did change direction without any reason. And there were more points where I blinked and wondered what got cut and why, because those lines just didn't stick together, much less flow.

Other times, mostly with Jack, they were having two conversations at once. Which was rather cool.

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There was no logic and it relied on telling because it had nothing to show us. That's the feeling I'm left with on second viewing.

So even without the still makes me sick specific, I don't think this one was very good.