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Soooo... *big sigh*

This was weird because I like the solution they stated out loud, but I didn't like pretty much any of the steps they took to get there, and don't feel like their ending matched their statement.

Two episodes though, so, start with
Snart.
And heist movies.

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HR and Savitar and The End.

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Very busy last episodes, some clever bits but some bits I found confusing all year.
I'm going to find bits to like but it takes more work than I'd like.
I hope they simplify next year and have the heroes regularly do heroics.
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Barry gets a mindwipe and Iris actually thinks about leaving him that way.
People in this show worry me.

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So, I think they've got some weird ideas of how humans work and what the important bits are.

But I know next episode has some added interest, so I can look forwards to that.
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HR and Tracy
Joe and Cecile
and Barry finally figures it out.

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This season is telling a story about dark sides and disconnection but without putting the capacity for choice where it belongs, and it's leaving me feeling like I have to take the story apart and jiggle it before it's any good at all.

Which is annoying.

Right now I'm looking forwards to this season being over and next season doing something different.
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The time travel to 2024?
Ugh.
I mean, I know what they're going for. This is the hero at his darkest. He gave up so now everything is awful. That's what happens when the protagonist gives up.

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So I'm just annoyed, because it's all very well telling a story about team Flash making a difference, but it winds me right up if they're saying they have to have Flash around to do it. Everyone can make a difference.

Except not when their name is not in the title.
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Abra Kadabra shows up yet somehow it's still all about Savitar.
I think I'd be bored of that even if I didn't know the ending.
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I'm not liking several layers of what they're doing.
At the moment I'm looking forwards to the end of the season.
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Watched the musical episode.
That was bad.
The songs were just plunked in there. Running home to you was cute but sounded weird. Everything else was only there because it was designated musical episode.
If the songs donot show you things the characters couldn't speak, don't bother.
And if the elseworld is supposed to be generated by their brain then the characters alternate selves should tell you something about how the dreamers see them, or what's the point?
So, no point.
Very boring.

... to be fair I watched it mostly on fast forward and am not a fan of sound so you could guess I'm not the target audience here
but I loved the Buffy musical and have the soundtrack
so it's not like I always hate things like this.

I just don't think they bothered using their conceit, let alone for the things it does uniquely well.
Boring.
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Barry goes into the speed force to get Wally out.
Aka yet another not-Snart, why do they do this to us?

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Lots of interesting story parts. I'm annoyed at Barry, not the writers.

... though Barry doing hero stuff again would be quite nice too.
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with a very fast engagement, Wally's mom, and a bit of an oops.

also the point where I'm pretty sure me knowing the ending means I'm not getting the same experience of watching this. so spoilers for later episodes below.

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Why is Barry having a big argument about killing Grodd
and nobody is mentioning
Al Rothstein, Eddie Slick and Griffin Grey.

Were there others? I honestly can't remember right now.

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I am also bored by mind control, so that's a blah.

But Grodd stories, especially one where the first half had Barry win by doing a Reverse Flash, are about how they're both shaped by how they were raised, and what that man Grodd calls father gave them. So there's three of Wells in this story, the two live bodies and the influence of the murderer. Which is cool. Barry deciding whether or not to kill is absolutely a story to explore with this kind of comparison.

But it really needs to remember he already did.
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Gorilla City, Grodd, and at least three versions of Harry.

I hate it when the characters are stupid. It gets boring.

... that's actually like 90% of my reaction to this one.

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I was just thinking an aspect of why I get interested in Reverse Flash:
because of paradox and going backwards, he has a whole story telling him who to be. And you can write him as striving to have an individual identity in the face of that imposed story. And that's usually a woman's arc, like struggling to break free of a spy training facility or whatever, the story tells her to be evil and powerful and she just wants room to exist.
That's not the main supported story that Reverse Flash is trying to tell
but I just realised where it fits in my pattern of interests.

He got told who he would grow up to be, and he'll break the universe if he doesn't become that.
Like it or not.


Of course Flash is told who he's going to be, but he keeps phrasing it in terms of future events to happen or not, not straight up identity.

Reverse Flash had his identity defined by his relationship to a guy. Hate hate relationship, at the simplest reading, but still. Usually that happens to characters getting called Lady Whatever because they're standing next to Lord Whatever.


And then to empower Barry - who he hates - Thawne sets aside his names, personal and family, and again lives another man's story. And yeah, saving Barry's destiny is the only way to save his own life, he props Barry up so he can use him, but. It's the story of someone setting aside their own name and career to support someone else, who is going to be seen as greater than them.

When Eobard got his wish in Doomworld he was still running a lab, but as himself, getting awards and recognition in his own name. That's his wish, but he can't have it, because Flash.



Of course all of this is way murdery. He loses his own life because he did a murder. He gets to live in a fancy house and all that rich stuff, this isn't a story of his suffering.

I'm just identifying the trope hooks that make his half of the story more compelling to me.

If you want to tell it that way, there's some very familiar elements.
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the one with the disintegration guy

I keep finding myself agreeing with Julian where the story clearly doesn't.
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Why on earth would the tv go with Gypsy as a code name, when it's rude and the character has nothing in common with the DC comics hero of that name?

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Lots of interesting bits
but this season has not grabbed me.
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moving in to their new place and actually talking to each other
... also some jewel thief had a shiny gun? and no personality.
... also also there was a STAR labs museum.

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I think I'm liking neither the mental health nor the time travel stuff, because of how they deal with it and talk about it, and that leaves very little to potentially like.

Ah well. Onwards anyways.
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Have I mentioned how much I hate stories where the only reason people do things is mind control?
Because it keeps being relevant that the only reason people do things is mind control.

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Um, this show appears to annoy me?

It's the mental health stuff, it can't really come back from that, it's a super bad model and does nothing good even for the narrative let alone the representation.



I keep rewriting it in my head like what I would do if I inherited STAR labs from my supervillain husband. Which obviously the tv is not going to be about.

But the All Star Squadron is a name they could put to work.

... ideas, I has them. no complains, unless in form of my own fiction...
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So, have now seen the start of the Invasion.
I'd like to say it makes more sense now, but they seem to have chopped it into three different types of story, of stages, or something. It's a mind boggling jam packed rush even from the start.

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They packed so much in the only bit I managed to properly care about was the Wally story. I don't get why Iris is on team lie to him though, you'd think someone on this show would learn. Well, Cisco has, but still. Ugh.

Yaay Kid Flash, and please to be telling him reasonable reasons, like he needs training and experience that are not dreams.

The appearance of the newspaper though... if they can even check that, what has happened to their Gideon, how much future knowledge is in there, and what reason other than temporal can of worms do they have to not use it for research? Even focused so it won't tell them tomorrow, what is it they're ignoring? More than just a page.

The change was good.

But it still mentions Reverse Flash, and I want to see if/when *that* changes.

Like, Reverse Flash was obsessed with that page for a reason. Top of my list of theories? It's his own personal future, a headline he hasn't participated in yet, so keeping that on track means he has a tomorrow.

Second is he knows the significance of the red skies.

Reverse Flash being undone should screw up that day along with all the rest. Grandfather paradox is a problem, not a solution.

... I am focused on the wrong bits.


Alien Invasion setup achieved. Now to wait for Arrow so I can see the middle...


... and in the meantime, watch more Flash.
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Killer Frost, Alchemy and Wally

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... I do not like how writers are presenting this, even when I can make it make watsonian sense.



What I don't like is the characters never have the conversation I would consider obvious, and just flail in maximum drama.

I should write, if I want a different story.
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Joe's first date in forever, Wally, Alchemy, and the first appearance of Savitar.
Plus a boringly underused Shade. I mean why even have fancy fx for a red herring with no motivation. blah.


Every time a story makes someone possessed or mind controlled or somehow no longer free willed, it gets absolutely and completely boring. It is the most boring of all boring versions they could possibly tell. It reduces the character to an empty meaningless puppet, and it abandons the most basic realism, cause there's always a choice. Not always a good choice, but always a choice.

The way comics and associated comic derived media presents mental illness has very little to do with how mental illness actually borks choice, in this case especially because it's presented as 'going evil' against her will rather than... anything actually people shaped. So, again, boring. No applicability and nothing to relate to.

So I'm getting the feeling I'm not going to likea major arc or two right here.

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Show could make better choices and is focused on making a bunch of deliberately embarrassing right now.
But still got some interesting.
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Julian, HR, and a giant monster.
Plus Caitlin's mum.

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Lots of interesting threads working pretty okay.
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Just watched the one with Mirror Master, the Top, and Snart
except despite how excited everyone got in advance there wasn't exactly a lot of Snart.
(kick the ball Charlie Brown)

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Episode had some good ingredients, but was just ingredients when it was done.

Makes me want to have another go at it with more theme and stirring.
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Watched the episode with Frankie, Magenta, and Jesse Quick.

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so, this is the new world...
and along with Barry, we get to realise everything we know is wrong, so that's... why do that to your viewers?

also the squirmy embarrassment of ao many social errors in a row had me watching through my fingers.

an entire episode of embarrassing flailing before he actually tells the truth
... is variably consistent, given that Barry's life for so many years involved trying to tell the truth about the impossible, and getting negative consequences for it
like, he should be trying, but he knows it's going to go so poorly.

I knew a bazillion spoilers before watching, so none of it had shock value to me and I have no feels about the new-new version.

... spoilers suck the feels out and I should get a tv channel that actually shows it this year.

... except I don't trust these shows enough to watch them without spoilers?

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Jay's demonstration with the coffee cup makes more sense than two seasons of Legends of Tomorrow, yet time travel is so inconsistent I don't even know if it's meant to be accurate. It's a really good reason to prevent all time travel, if true, and explains the end of LoT season 2, and yet we've got a time travel show to play in so nobody is going to conclude that alterations to time are too dangerous.



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So, as an episode, it gave me thoughts, but not feels.


Shall see how the season goes on.
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Just finished watching the first episode.
... Barry is... I do not follow his logic here. Emotion, sure, but...
... sometimes I think he is not bright.

I mean, I get that Wally was hurt, but he wasn't dead? Things seem plenty fixable?

I don't see how he gets from there to out loud asking Eobard Thawne to kill his mother.

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Basically the thing where Barry and other time travellers don't approach their own lives like a sci fi obsessed rules lawyer gamer somehow continues to annoy. They never try and finesse anything. And get so surprised when that has consequences.

But we get to see those consequences, so that's an improvement.



... I still find I have much sympathy with the Reverse Flash.

It's like that time travel with Hartley day, where Eo!Wells is sitting there waving his hands to try and shut time travel Barry up, but no, Barry just... charges on through. Fifteen years Thawne kept the secret and avoided time wraiths, and Barry can't last six hours. Lovely.

...the responding to it with murder is not sympathetic, but the level of frustration, ooooh yes.



I guess I liked the episode, at least for the consequences and the Reverse Flash bits
but now it applies the reboot problem
logically to the whole arrowverse:

everything we think we know may or may not be wrong
so
why are we still invested?




Shall see.
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Logically Eobard Thawne is an angry man who enjoys killing people and would be terrible to work with
but the thing where he sat down, made, and successfully executed a fifteen year plan
makes him so much more organised than anyone about else in the genre
it's tempting anyway.
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I just rewatched the Flash season 2 episode where they go to Earth 2 and Barry replaces himself
and I don't get why they didn't just have an actual conversation.
I mean seriously, I cannot think of a reason they would have plan A be knock anyone unconscious or deceive people.

Why not just ask questions and make new friends?

I can't figure what they were thinking.

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