The Flash season 3
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beccaelizabethBarry goes into the speed force to get Wally out.
Aka yet another not-Snart, why do they do this to us?
Speedforce!Snart saying he became a better man because of Barry and therefore sacrificed himself for others... I mean, that wasn't the story I saw, but I'm sure Barry's guilt believes it. I saw Len and Mick have a whole story between them. Len sacrificed himself for Mick. His partner and friend. Why is everyone else trying to claim it? Because they think it makes Snart look better or because of their own feelings? I mean, it's true the Flash changed the whole game, and Len wouldn't be in that position without him, but it's still a spin that leaves out his partner so I get annoyed.
Barry is not very bright. He doesn't listen right. He came back with a head full of blaming himself and empty of actually noticing what happened.
... also, this identifies the Black Flash as Zolomon Zoom, and that's just... frustrating, because why the costume change? But this does explain how he got out of the speed force, using Barry's tether.
Still don't know what happens to him when he kills the other speedster so much. Seems like that could be a thing.
Barry sees time wraiths, Zolomon who got ate for time remnants, and a time trap... and concludes this is all about Flashpoint and he needs to embrace the future. Okaaaaaay, but, speedforce already said it allowed Flashpoint. And what does embrace the future mean? Seems to me all these all are just saying don't do time tricks we really really mean it.
I know I know the ending, but they're failing to notice the two Flashes in every flashforward, and it seems really obvious.
This episode tells us a lot about Barry's guilt and not much about the three faces the speed force puts on.
Also, the other thing those three AND Zoom had in common was they died *weird*, though to be fair Barry doesn't know that. All three in time travel related weird physics. Two went into the time travel created wormhole, though Eddie was dead by local standards he wasn't dead by Waverider standards, see Sarah's bullet wound induced minor death. Ronnie went bye bye in the wormhole and because there was no body they figured he was dead, but he's Firestorm and has previously converted into pure energy in the particle accelerator explosion, so it's not necessarily that simple. And Len died at the Oculus, which was supposed to be a supernova, but left the vanishing point standing, albeit empty. There's plenty of room for weird to mean comic book temporary.
But aside from that...
Writers are having fun saying things that'll make different sense with more data.
Also telling Barry off for what it was obvious the speed force would tell him off for. He got a whole spirit quest about weathering grief and accepting death and moving on, but he still keeps staying in those moments. Flash needs to move on, said he would, speed force reminds him.
... so he gets home still thinking it's all about the future without thinking *why*.
He does not think four dimensionally. Even while time travelling.
Jay is cool. Also hero. Also getting the expected amount of screen time.
Stories deal weird with olders. It's like they have to stop existing before the youngers get full greatness. I feel there's enough hero stuff to fill up the time of everyone.
HR and Jesse got a good story. Jesse did hugging before but now is all you can't be him. HR is trying. Possibly very trying. But he does brainstorm good ideas.
They should probably agree he's more like an uncle than a dad though, like a long lost twin.
Jesse knocking him out was entirely unnecessary and calling it weirdly satisfying is actually creepy. She could have sped around him. He couldn't stop her. He wouldn't even see her leave. So she just knocked him out for funsies.
Creepy.
Wally in the speed force wasn't a Wally story because Barry is still The Flash. But Wally just proved he can open a time travel portal and needs to learn the same things about letting go before he in his turn does a Flashpoint. So unless he's already moved on, which, no, many mentions show he still thinks about his mum dying, leaps to that conclusion about other people parent, not moved on, so, he needs a proper talking to. He should have had a story and then the speed force could be objecting to Barry interfering in Wally's growth.
Barry says he's just a Kid, speed force says he's a Flash.
So he's got to forge his own understanding of the speed force, like Barry.
Would be better story beats.
Lots of interesting story parts. I'm annoyed at Barry, not the writers.
... though Barry doing hero stuff again would be quite nice too.
Aka yet another not-Snart, why do they do this to us?
Speedforce!Snart saying he became a better man because of Barry and therefore sacrificed himself for others... I mean, that wasn't the story I saw, but I'm sure Barry's guilt believes it. I saw Len and Mick have a whole story between them. Len sacrificed himself for Mick. His partner and friend. Why is everyone else trying to claim it? Because they think it makes Snart look better or because of their own feelings? I mean, it's true the Flash changed the whole game, and Len wouldn't be in that position without him, but it's still a spin that leaves out his partner so I get annoyed.
Barry is not very bright. He doesn't listen right. He came back with a head full of blaming himself and empty of actually noticing what happened.
... also, this identifies the Black Flash as Zolomon Zoom, and that's just... frustrating, because why the costume change? But this does explain how he got out of the speed force, using Barry's tether.
Still don't know what happens to him when he kills the other speedster so much. Seems like that could be a thing.
Barry sees time wraiths, Zolomon who got ate for time remnants, and a time trap... and concludes this is all about Flashpoint and he needs to embrace the future. Okaaaaaay, but, speedforce already said it allowed Flashpoint. And what does embrace the future mean? Seems to me all these all are just saying don't do time tricks we really really mean it.
I know I know the ending, but they're failing to notice the two Flashes in every flashforward, and it seems really obvious.
This episode tells us a lot about Barry's guilt and not much about the three faces the speed force puts on.
Also, the other thing those three AND Zoom had in common was they died *weird*, though to be fair Barry doesn't know that. All three in time travel related weird physics. Two went into the time travel created wormhole, though Eddie was dead by local standards he wasn't dead by Waverider standards, see Sarah's bullet wound induced minor death. Ronnie went bye bye in the wormhole and because there was no body they figured he was dead, but he's Firestorm and has previously converted into pure energy in the particle accelerator explosion, so it's not necessarily that simple. And Len died at the Oculus, which was supposed to be a supernova, but left the vanishing point standing, albeit empty. There's plenty of room for weird to mean comic book temporary.
But aside from that...
Writers are having fun saying things that'll make different sense with more data.
Also telling Barry off for what it was obvious the speed force would tell him off for. He got a whole spirit quest about weathering grief and accepting death and moving on, but he still keeps staying in those moments. Flash needs to move on, said he would, speed force reminds him.
... so he gets home still thinking it's all about the future without thinking *why*.
He does not think four dimensionally. Even while time travelling.
Jay is cool. Also hero. Also getting the expected amount of screen time.
Stories deal weird with olders. It's like they have to stop existing before the youngers get full greatness. I feel there's enough hero stuff to fill up the time of everyone.
HR and Jesse got a good story. Jesse did hugging before but now is all you can't be him. HR is trying. Possibly very trying. But he does brainstorm good ideas.
They should probably agree he's more like an uncle than a dad though, like a long lost twin.
Jesse knocking him out was entirely unnecessary and calling it weirdly satisfying is actually creepy. She could have sped around him. He couldn't stop her. He wouldn't even see her leave. So she just knocked him out for funsies.
Creepy.
Wally in the speed force wasn't a Wally story because Barry is still The Flash. But Wally just proved he can open a time travel portal and needs to learn the same things about letting go before he in his turn does a Flashpoint. So unless he's already moved on, which, no, many mentions show he still thinks about his mum dying, leaps to that conclusion about other people parent, not moved on, so, he needs a proper talking to. He should have had a story and then the speed force could be objecting to Barry interfering in Wally's growth.
Barry says he's just a Kid, speed force says he's a Flash.
So he's got to forge his own understanding of the speed force, like Barry.
Would be better story beats.
Lots of interesting story parts. I'm annoyed at Barry, not the writers.
... though Barry doing hero stuff again would be quite nice too.