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I have been rewatching a lot of Leverage
and watching Eliot
and comparing him to Lindsey.

Eliot is angry, like, A Lot, possibly all the time, but he's the kind of angry where people can poke him and he'll still think about how he responds, and if they're just playing he'll just say 'dammit' and tell them to quit it and move on.

I don't think poking Lindsey was ever going to go that well.
He gets angry and *mean*.
They make different angry faces.

I think I read Lindsey different having seen the same face make different feelings, or different takes on related feelings.

Even when Eliot is happy he's winning and satisfied with his own skill, which do happen, he don't seem to be enjoying people getting hurt. I think.

It is leaving me things to ponder.




Also, I always end up worrying about CK, all the stunts and all. He says it's like a dance but it still hurts. So I end up wanting to give him more armour and a nice sit down and possibly some foods.



I am in the middle of Leverage season 3 right now and it seems to me Parker and Eliot are having their feelings wake up but are dealing with them... not badly but maybe clumsy?
Like I'm not sure Eliot has figured out which bits make him happy. Kind of want to sit him down and have a long chat. But it would be about feelings so it probably wouldnt work.

I love these characters and now I know how the stories go I know I can trust them, with a few bumpy bits for alcohol.

Leverage is excellent.



Still need to figure out how to watch the reboot.
DVDs are so much simpler than all these streaming whatsits.

I was thinking on Buffy the Vampire Slayer, and the end of Angel, which I still haven't got around to rewatching because I just somehow can't commit to watching every character I care about suffer that bad and mostly die.

Specifically I was thinking about time differentials in hell.

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So that's just a whole stack of problems, inherent in the throwaway concept that time in hell travels a hundred years in a day.

I'm not being real coherent about them, but, they're kind of giant.

So that's a whole stack of bunnies.

Lindsey is one of my favourite characters of all time. He hangs out in my head a lot and I have way more of my version than canon version. But still, in canon, favourite.

He just drove off in his beat up truck with his (probably formerly) evil hand and his guitar, and now I'm going to miss him for ages, sulk.

He had so many moments he could have made the other choice and still went back to Wolfram & Hart. And that makes him frustrating, and willingly evil, and fascinating, because it wasn't seeing children in danger and it wasn't seeing what they do to the woman he loves that makes him walk away. It was the realisation that evil just wasn't working. And sure, that he's so many spare parts to his employers, that part has to suck, but he stood there and got brains on his face while his co-worker got shot, I think he got that memo. What makes him interesting is Lindsey is, by the measures of his peers, winning, and he walks away. Because evil? He's bored with this crap.

It's kind of what fascinates me with Methos too, though he was on a different scale in a very different era. Methos was an Immortal warlord who ruled the known world, could have anything and anyone he wanted, and he just got bored. He decided he'd rather read, study, be a philosopher, be... well, over the next four thousand years, pretty much be human every which way a man can be. And it started when he'd tried evil, reached the top, and just... decided he was done with it.

I like it because evil is boring. It's banal, it's tedious, it's the same shit over and over with a fear and pain soundtrack. Characters that never go there in the first place, great. Characters that see the light and realise that love and compassion are the guiding forces they've been looking for, awesome. But there's also a place for the guys who just try it and end up done with it. Cause they're saying a different thing. The path of righteousness isn't that hard or made of sacrifice, because the path of evil is just kind of crap.

Makes the other ways look way more attractive.

And all those times he coulda woulda shoulda walked away, the times he nearly saw the light but put blinders on, the times he closed the door on redemption... they're followed up by this. So you get to see, there actually isn't a too late to change. People can be pricks over and over and they've still got a choice about it. So Lindsey chose.

That's what makes him fascinating.

Well, that and he remains easy on the eyes. And ears. And... well, beyond that, mostly speculation and some data from conventions. But wow is he pretty. And when he smiles at you... *happy sigh*

I watch him real close whenever he's on screen and it's fascination as much as attraction, barn owl and mouse maybe.

But I really, really like his character arc.

Up until here. Or, you know, up until almost the last minute.
*sigh*

I've had 'write about buffy season 6 and 7' on my to do list for long enough that I have, on the whole, forgotten what I was going to write. So, ticklist:

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Hope that was what I wanted to write about ... mostly season 7 as it turns out. Think I forgot a bunch of things by waiting this long, but so it goes.


Meanwhile I'm on the last episode of Angel season 1, and one of the most interesting things about it is how, when Buffy turns up, she swiftly seems entirely irrelevant. Way to establish your show as its own independent thing. And way depressing if that's supposed to be the love of his life: as soon as they're not fighting the exact same good fight the exact same ways, side by side? All they've got left is arguments.

I don't ship it.



I do like to watch it though.

Just watched Hero.

Puddle of sad feels commences.



Though actually since my ongoing go-to-sleep fanfic has a detailed multi point plan for fixing that particular event, less so that could be, since daydream me has saved the day a bunch of different ways.


It always pisses me off that Angel threw away the solution just a couple episodes ago. I mean Angel pisses me off often, but especially with the unilateral decisions that are all about suffering more so he can work through his guilt. He decided for Buffy and did a general mindwipe from his point of view, and he decided about the gem of amara, without thinking that hey, maybe the powers put it there for a reason! I mean, either believe in some vague Powers that Be steering your life for a higher purpose or don't, you know?

Angel believes in hitting people until he stops feeling bad about it, and in five seasons never gets the hang of why that just doesn't work.

Not my favourite guy.



I'm not sure if the show is right there with him or knows his guilt is his tragic flaw. I mean if they think it's necessary to suffer in order to notice other people suffering, that's kind of a problem. Dude doesn't have to stay in the dark to see it. Not in sensible world.


Also, I am so over B/A it's blah. I mean, I know re-runs can never grow up and get over it, but really.


... I go from puddle of sad feel to being really annoyed at Angel. :eyeroll:


Angel is a good series, but it's still finding its feet this early on. Sometimes the version in my head looked better at key moments, you know? But Cordelia's story is going to get good and Angel is fun to watch when he's only trying to look cool and even more fun when he's not even trying and his inner daftie shows through.


But this particular episode?

Puddle of sad.

Story just had Connor, post NFA, think of Angel as "his real father"

and that bugs me.

I guess because in my head its important that "biological father" is not "real father" (the one that does the fathering job is)



When he first appears, he's all "Hi Dad."

Buffyverse Dialog Database reckons
Connor called Angel:
a *thing* that kills and drinks blood -- (A New World)
a self-righteous bastard -- (Spin The Bottle)
the prince of lies -- (Tomorrow)

but does not collect the Dad or Father references.

He refers to Angel as his father and the other guy as his Dad in the ep he gets his memories back, Origin.

Aha! Here's why it bugs!

Google for
Angel transcript Connor "real father"
gets Connor referring to *Angelus* that way.

CONNOR
You think I care what you say? Angel told me how you’ll
try to hurt me. How you weren’t my real dad, just some
animal in a cage. Angel’s my dad.
ANGELUS
I’m gonna cry.
CONNOR
That’s what he told me… and he thought I believed him.
The truth is… Angel’s just something that you’re forced to
wear. You’re my real father


Same ep he starts saying 'father' and corrects himself to Holtz.


A quick search of transcripts finds only Soulless for Connor saying "real father" - but also Somnambulist for someone saying it about Angelus (Penn)(another dude with serious father issues).


so, using it as the way Connor thinks of Angel calls up Angelus... which I don't think was intended. Not sure yet, of course.


I'd still call him biological or blood father, not real.


/random


I should probably go sleep.

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Whatever there is next- movies, series, or just fanfic- we still have *this*, eight years, 12 seasons of stories.

And we still have hope.

It's all wonky because Andrew is telling the story

The W&HLA bits are real, and the totally different bits are Andrew telling about what happened on their visit.

Now it all makes sense.