My just woke up thoughts about labels
Jul. 22nd, 2006 08:27 amSo metafandom is full of a bazillion posts about warnings, saying stuff like every time I see the warning debate come round again, that's what it always seems to boil down to: readers don't have enough time to sift through all the fic that doesn't have warnings, they don't have enough patience to do that
to which I reply, back up one statement - don't have the time
How many thousands of fanfics are there in your corner of fandom? Very very many I suspect. Counting Ethan stories only, and god knows Ethan is a very minor bit of Buffy fandom, I got 270 stories on web pages and 358 LJ memories, not to mention the uncatalogued stuff I trawled through from Google searching for it. If you get those 600 stories one at a time over years, they might not feel like much. If you start out as a new reader? Where do you start?
(Of Old Mystics or Tea and Biscuits if you like long, because *very* long, but for short... waaaaaay many.)
If you pick up a book
.... oh my *god* there's a Spider crawling up my curtain, and yes it gets a capital letter, for it is as big as my fucking *hand* I swear!
okay, the palm part of my hand only, maybe.
... oh my god, it must have been under my computer desk to get to the curtain.
It is *huge*. I didn't know the UK did Spiders that bit! Well, okay, that one that one time, but... Wah!
...yes, that was a real and unscheduled interruption.
But I am Writer, so I turn it into metaphor!
You read a fic, and every now and then you get OHMYGODSPIDER!
But one has only so much adrenaline to go around, so it would really be nice to be spider free, should one wish to avoid them.
No I'm not saying put arachnophobe warnings on fic, I'm saying that some things make you interrupt a happy little bit of reading to go WAH and really, life is too short, you know? For Spiders on the curtain one cannot be warned for, and for such things I save up my brave.
... now I'll have to actually find it and get it out the window.
Or move out. I like that plan. Er, sort of. Well, no, because my TV is being delievered here, so I kind of have to live here... *sigh*
ANYways, my actual point pre SPIDER was,
270 stories in the database
and one of them is *foul*
out of character partner betrayal torture rape and death fic that some... I have a rude word for them, but someone with a weird sense of what the categories mean posted it to a Giles/Ethan archive.
Ethan ends up sliced to bitses by insane!Giles.
I have not read this story in a long while. I do not intend to ever read this story again. If I had my way, I would never have read it in the first place. I wanted the brain bleach something severe after I read that rubbish. I definitely wanted my time back.
I only read it in the first place because it had been labelled in a way that appealed to me and presented in a context that suggested it was a thing I would like. The google stories were neither, and nobody's fault but mine, which is why I'm keeping it down to the database ones only. But those google search fics are a good example of the contrary condition, stories without context or labels. Google for "Ethan Rayne" and right now you get 35,600 pages. I think it used to be more. If all of those were fics, how on earth would you find the time? And though they are not all fics, how is it that we know that?
Context and labels.
Warnings are just another way to sift something worth our time from the overwhelming multiplicity of the modern media.
Don't want to help people do that?
=
Don't want to attract readers who will actually like your story.
to which I reply, back up one statement - don't have the time
How many thousands of fanfics are there in your corner of fandom? Very very many I suspect. Counting Ethan stories only, and god knows Ethan is a very minor bit of Buffy fandom, I got 270 stories on web pages and 358 LJ memories, not to mention the uncatalogued stuff I trawled through from Google searching for it. If you get those 600 stories one at a time over years, they might not feel like much. If you start out as a new reader? Where do you start?
(Of Old Mystics or Tea and Biscuits if you like long, because *very* long, but for short... waaaaaay many.)
If you pick up a book
.... oh my *god* there's a Spider crawling up my curtain, and yes it gets a capital letter, for it is as big as my fucking *hand* I swear!
okay, the palm part of my hand only, maybe.
... oh my god, it must have been under my computer desk to get to the curtain.
It is *huge*. I didn't know the UK did Spiders that bit! Well, okay, that one that one time, but... Wah!
...yes, that was a real and unscheduled interruption.
But I am Writer, so I turn it into metaphor!
You read a fic, and every now and then you get OHMYGODSPIDER!
But one has only so much adrenaline to go around, so it would really be nice to be spider free, should one wish to avoid them.
No I'm not saying put arachnophobe warnings on fic, I'm saying that some things make you interrupt a happy little bit of reading to go WAH and really, life is too short, you know? For Spiders on the curtain one cannot be warned for, and for such things I save up my brave.
... now I'll have to actually find it and get it out the window.
Or move out. I like that plan. Er, sort of. Well, no, because my TV is being delievered here, so I kind of have to live here... *sigh*
ANYways, my actual point pre SPIDER was,
270 stories in the database
and one of them is *foul*
out of character partner betrayal torture rape and death fic that some... I have a rude word for them, but someone with a weird sense of what the categories mean posted it to a Giles/Ethan archive.
Ethan ends up sliced to bitses by insane!Giles.
I have not read this story in a long while. I do not intend to ever read this story again. If I had my way, I would never have read it in the first place. I wanted the brain bleach something severe after I read that rubbish. I definitely wanted my time back.
I only read it in the first place because it had been labelled in a way that appealed to me and presented in a context that suggested it was a thing I would like. The google stories were neither, and nobody's fault but mine, which is why I'm keeping it down to the database ones only. But those google search fics are a good example of the contrary condition, stories without context or labels. Google for "Ethan Rayne" and right now you get 35,600 pages. I think it used to be more. If all of those were fics, how on earth would you find the time? And though they are not all fics, how is it that we know that?
Context and labels.
Warnings are just another way to sift something worth our time from the overwhelming multiplicity of the modern media.
Don't want to help people do that?
=
Don't want to attract readers who will actually like your story.