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Pondering Pathfinder
Oct. 6th, 2018 11:07 pmSleep didn't work right so the days since the dentist have not really worked right.
But I read a bunch more Pathfinder stuff. And relistened one of the audios, which works a bit better with more context and more attention. Like the existence of the god Cayden Cailean, the Drunken Hero, is pretty hilarious. He made a drunk bet and achieved godhood on accident. Like someone was all dare you to go touch that stone (which makes you a god) and he was like fine I will (but not because it made you a god). So now the Pathfinder 'verse has an actual god of getting drunk and doing cool shit for a dare, like every adventure party ever, and I feel this explains a lot. Including Valeros in the audios.
I still object strongly to the idea of evil races, and some of the stuff that gets called evil. Like deformity and madness. Like, rudest ways to talk disability and mental illness. I couldn't be having with Warhammer because of this shit, I dislike finding it more places.
Also not keen on the way even deities who are in theory in favour of redemption have a very big 'or else' and sharp swords. Like, I know this is a game with a lot of combat rules and such stats are way easier than actual people stuff and sorting things out so they feel better and dont be evil, but, bug not feature. Still, at least reforming evil is possible. But then wouldn't a redeemer god's main gig be among the 'evil' races?
... a lot of this stuff loops poorly with old colonialist racism.
And I don't know quite what to call the yuck that is sayin orcs have so many babies they dont caee about them and get fighty because they've never got enough to o around, but, yuck.
Also while "We be goblins, you be food" is a nice clear mission statement, I end up thinking that, in a system without alignments and the assumption some races are cruel for giggles, if you apply a little logic and a lot of farming, goblins would probably prefer food that doesn't try to kill them back. And like, they're stuck in the wilderness because? Squabbling tribes? That just happen to have the bad land while humans claim the farming? I feel I've heard this before.
New rule: write fantasy with all white humans, see if it looks yuck or foolish, run it through checks for common stereotypes, maybe avoid nasty?
... come to think I didn't finish reading theworldbuilding background for some of the other rule sets, they probably did different.
So, anyway, frustrated at same things, but it's something to pass the time.
And potentially social, if I ever actually go looking for a group...
But I read a bunch more Pathfinder stuff. And relistened one of the audios, which works a bit better with more context and more attention. Like the existence of the god Cayden Cailean, the Drunken Hero, is pretty hilarious. He made a drunk bet and achieved godhood on accident. Like someone was all dare you to go touch that stone (which makes you a god) and he was like fine I will (but not because it made you a god). So now the Pathfinder 'verse has an actual god of getting drunk and doing cool shit for a dare, like every adventure party ever, and I feel this explains a lot. Including Valeros in the audios.
I still object strongly to the idea of evil races, and some of the stuff that gets called evil. Like deformity and madness. Like, rudest ways to talk disability and mental illness. I couldn't be having with Warhammer because of this shit, I dislike finding it more places.
Also not keen on the way even deities who are in theory in favour of redemption have a very big 'or else' and sharp swords. Like, I know this is a game with a lot of combat rules and such stats are way easier than actual people stuff and sorting things out so they feel better and dont be evil, but, bug not feature. Still, at least reforming evil is possible. But then wouldn't a redeemer god's main gig be among the 'evil' races?
... a lot of this stuff loops poorly with old colonialist racism.
And I don't know quite what to call the yuck that is sayin orcs have so many babies they dont caee about them and get fighty because they've never got enough to o around, but, yuck.
Also while "We be goblins, you be food" is a nice clear mission statement, I end up thinking that, in a system without alignments and the assumption some races are cruel for giggles, if you apply a little logic and a lot of farming, goblins would probably prefer food that doesn't try to kill them back. And like, they're stuck in the wilderness because? Squabbling tribes? That just happen to have the bad land while humans claim the farming? I feel I've heard this before.
New rule: write fantasy with all white humans, see if it looks yuck or foolish, run it through checks for common stereotypes, maybe avoid nasty?
... come to think I didn't finish reading theworldbuilding background for some of the other rule sets, they probably did different.
So, anyway, frustrated at same things, but it's something to pass the time.
And potentially social, if I ever actually go looking for a group...