Torchwood eps 2 and 3
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beccaelizabethI watched two more of Torchwood.
I watched them on fast forward and I'm still bored.
I did slow it down a couple of times to watch Jack have conversations, so I still like Jack, but I'm pretty sure I could watch Jack in re-runs and know him just as well by now.
Also the pictures that should be pretty keep bugging me with the lighting and colors. I don't even know why. I definitely don't know why it bugs me. They just all look weird all the time. and they did something to Gwen's hair. and I think Jack is using a different color dye. And I'd quite like to quit noticing now.
So, spoilers
Turns out we do get to keep Vera Juarez. That's nice.
... shagging Rex, not nice. I mean, unless she's really turned on by unhealing wounds, I have no idea why she did that.
... hey, you never know, she went into medicine for some reason...
Rex is an arse. Bored now.
Granted Owen was an arse and I spent years writing fanfic on him and imported him into my original 'verses, but that's not the point.
Owen was amusing. I mean, rat jam. And calling himself names. And silly badges on his coat. Just from the start, interesting stuff.
Rex? is CIA. He keeps saying it. CIA! With extra !!!
... also, an arse.
... that's about it.
Esther is super competent in ways that involve smiling at people and reading lots of things.
... I liked it better when Ianto did it. With the dry wit. And the hidden depths of anguish. And the rat tummy.
... did Torchwood have a bit of a rat theme going on?
I know I shouldn't be all comparing like this. Except actually I'm not just saying I like Ianto better, I mean I like better characters that have more than one note. Owen was an arse and amusing, Ianto was hyper competent and snarky. Esther so far is hyper competent and a bit wet. I'm not sure that helps. And it genders poorly.
There's lots of women. Some of them is evil. they all wear ridiculous high heels. It's bugging me. Wear converse if you're running!
the woman with her head on backwards was disturbing.
that whole episode was deeply boring though. I mean, it was like two lines of event. what happened in that? they fly to America and everyone turns out to be against them so they go on the run. two things. all done.
I guess they did it that way to make Vera part of the team?
I was bored.
Also, I have read people complaining about the science. It's something I try not to do. But when you have cyanide and arsenic both right there and you want to kill someone quickly, you know which one you use? So she's evil and incompetent. It's annoying.
Jack keeps giving away how old he is. I know why he does that to the audience, but he went a lot of years in 'verse not telling even his team. Why tell everyone now? It's potentially interesting.
Jack getting obsessed with the guy who murdered a child... well, they're doing consequences. That beats the alternative. Jack concluding the guy wants execution... Jack has been suicidal for how long? Except there he was dying and he tried not to. So, ambiguous about death. Interesting.
The thing where Jack is feeling ill so they conclude he is mortal is a bit of a problem. Injury still does damage, drugs still work, poison should still make you sick.
But the thing he points out where everyone is double extra plus alive is being demonstrated and is interesting.
The science fiction stuff they're doing with the panel and the CIA analysts talking to each other, following through on some really rather nasty stuff about immortality, is interesting. The thing where they're having conversations and not stories is... well, quite a relief, with the pregnancy part, actually. That's a depth of nasty I don't want to think on.
I keep feeling like this season of Torchwood has changed genres. CoE went quite far in changing the basics, I felt they'd changed authors and crime types, from vaguely Sherlock to vaguely Marlowe. No more analysis, just stagger around until the relevant bad guys hit you.
This plot relies heavily on coincidence and stupidity so far. I mean, people keep trying to kill them, so they know they know something. Very noir. And then people they know are getting contacted by the bad guys, so that's handy. It's a tiny bit different from setting out to do investigation. But they're doing some of that too.
If Phi Corp is reaching out to bazillions of people then tripping over tendrils of plan makes one set of sense. But I like it better when investigators apply brain and get result. RTD doesn't seem to like that much.
'bigger on the inside' warehouse - in joke or clue?
I'm betting joke.
I just now watched two episodes but I feel like I can't remember enough plot for one.
I'm not really believing the reactions to Danes. the ones where people hit him a lot, yeah, but the ones where people get weird about him, no. Plus the whole legal mess just does not go away. It makes no sense. They're building a lot on a nonsense. I dislike it.
I hope the phi corp stuff is a red herring. Or a vine, lots of branches of possibility. otherwise we know too much and it gets boring.
... boring is kind of a theme here.
I miss Jack.
After watching two hours of his show.
:-(
PS: I think Jack just claimed out loud to be American, while trying to get cola?
I have written already why it irritates me if Jack is American.
Jack is from the very future. The future is not American.
Also, what's with calling out his coat as World War II?
It's an RAF greatcoat.
I looked up on the RAF website about RAF uniforms, the now sort, and I found a greatcoat.
What makes his be vintage militaria?
And what makes Rex be calling it that?
I watched them on fast forward and I'm still bored.
I did slow it down a couple of times to watch Jack have conversations, so I still like Jack, but I'm pretty sure I could watch Jack in re-runs and know him just as well by now.
Also the pictures that should be pretty keep bugging me with the lighting and colors. I don't even know why. I definitely don't know why it bugs me. They just all look weird all the time. and they did something to Gwen's hair. and I think Jack is using a different color dye. And I'd quite like to quit noticing now.
So, spoilers
Turns out we do get to keep Vera Juarez. That's nice.
... shagging Rex, not nice. I mean, unless she's really turned on by unhealing wounds, I have no idea why she did that.
... hey, you never know, she went into medicine for some reason...
Rex is an arse. Bored now.
Granted Owen was an arse and I spent years writing fanfic on him and imported him into my original 'verses, but that's not the point.
Owen was amusing. I mean, rat jam. And calling himself names. And silly badges on his coat. Just from the start, interesting stuff.
Rex? is CIA. He keeps saying it. CIA! With extra !!!
... also, an arse.
... that's about it.
Esther is super competent in ways that involve smiling at people and reading lots of things.
... I liked it better when Ianto did it. With the dry wit. And the hidden depths of anguish. And the rat tummy.
... did Torchwood have a bit of a rat theme going on?
I know I shouldn't be all comparing like this. Except actually I'm not just saying I like Ianto better, I mean I like better characters that have more than one note. Owen was an arse and amusing, Ianto was hyper competent and snarky. Esther so far is hyper competent and a bit wet. I'm not sure that helps. And it genders poorly.
There's lots of women. Some of them is evil. they all wear ridiculous high heels. It's bugging me. Wear converse if you're running!
the woman with her head on backwards was disturbing.
that whole episode was deeply boring though. I mean, it was like two lines of event. what happened in that? they fly to America and everyone turns out to be against them so they go on the run. two things. all done.
I guess they did it that way to make Vera part of the team?
I was bored.
Also, I have read people complaining about the science. It's something I try not to do. But when you have cyanide and arsenic both right there and you want to kill someone quickly, you know which one you use? So she's evil and incompetent. It's annoying.
Jack keeps giving away how old he is. I know why he does that to the audience, but he went a lot of years in 'verse not telling even his team. Why tell everyone now? It's potentially interesting.
Jack getting obsessed with the guy who murdered a child... well, they're doing consequences. That beats the alternative. Jack concluding the guy wants execution... Jack has been suicidal for how long? Except there he was dying and he tried not to. So, ambiguous about death. Interesting.
The thing where Jack is feeling ill so they conclude he is mortal is a bit of a problem. Injury still does damage, drugs still work, poison should still make you sick.
But the thing he points out where everyone is double extra plus alive is being demonstrated and is interesting.
The science fiction stuff they're doing with the panel and the CIA analysts talking to each other, following through on some really rather nasty stuff about immortality, is interesting. The thing where they're having conversations and not stories is... well, quite a relief, with the pregnancy part, actually. That's a depth of nasty I don't want to think on.
I keep feeling like this season of Torchwood has changed genres. CoE went quite far in changing the basics, I felt they'd changed authors and crime types, from vaguely Sherlock to vaguely Marlowe. No more analysis, just stagger around until the relevant bad guys hit you.
This plot relies heavily on coincidence and stupidity so far. I mean, people keep trying to kill them, so they know they know something. Very noir. And then people they know are getting contacted by the bad guys, so that's handy. It's a tiny bit different from setting out to do investigation. But they're doing some of that too.
If Phi Corp is reaching out to bazillions of people then tripping over tendrils of plan makes one set of sense. But I like it better when investigators apply brain and get result. RTD doesn't seem to like that much.
'bigger on the inside' warehouse - in joke or clue?
I'm betting joke.
I just now watched two episodes but I feel like I can't remember enough plot for one.
I'm not really believing the reactions to Danes. the ones where people hit him a lot, yeah, but the ones where people get weird about him, no. Plus the whole legal mess just does not go away. It makes no sense. They're building a lot on a nonsense. I dislike it.
I hope the phi corp stuff is a red herring. Or a vine, lots of branches of possibility. otherwise we know too much and it gets boring.
... boring is kind of a theme here.
I miss Jack.
After watching two hours of his show.
:-(
PS: I think Jack just claimed out loud to be American, while trying to get cola?
I have written already why it irritates me if Jack is American.
Jack is from the very future. The future is not American.
Also, what's with calling out his coat as World War II?
It's an RAF greatcoat.
I looked up on the RAF website about RAF uniforms, the now sort, and I found a greatcoat.
What makes his be vintage militaria?
And what makes Rex be calling it that?