A Song of Ice and Fire vs Game of Thrones
Oct. 18th, 2015 11:55 am![[personal profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png){kind=small}
beccaelizabethLast night I finished reading the first ... 3? the third one is split in half... books of A Song of Ice and Fire. They're still a petty, mean, stunted view of humans with no emotional range where no good deed goes unpunished, but they don't half have the hang of making you wonder what happens next. If I'd had a bookshop handy at 0300 I would have bought the next one. And then gone *facepalm* because really I was re-reading them to see if they're worth the shelf space and intend to get rid of them. Just, you know, after reading what happens next...
They're cruel, everyone in them is twisted, there are no good guys or even slightly less bad guys, and there's entirely too much stuff that needs warnings for underage, rape and incest. I mean any would be too much but there's really a lot. I don't think any of the younger generation are 16 yet, and yet, sex and sexual assault everywhere.
And by all I've heard the TV series added more rape. Which is grotesque.
According to the wiki I just read it also aged up all the child characters, which sidesteps some of the more epically underage bits, probably on account of them being illegal to show on the TV otherwise. But it does leave me wondering how they account for their behaviour if they're all older, and what role their elders would play when the new bosses are already of age.
I read a few episodes worth of a wiki page about changes between the book and the series, and it's just... kind of baffling? Like, okay, I understand the TV can't afford the same size of cast and will mix characters together to simple things up, but you can't do that when the characters are a compare and contrast, or actually on different sides. Or if it means destroying them before they're important to the plot??? Or rather, you can't do that without introducing ripple effect changes to the characters that... I don't see how they're supposed to get where I just read them going without doing even more damage to human nature. Also all the changes I read so far make the whole thing meaner, more cruel but also smaller. And again, not just in budget related ways. And I've read bits about how they were racist to Dothraki before, but they seem even more baffling after a book re-read. And how are people meant to react the ways they do if things are twisted so?
I didn't watch Game of Thrones the first time because I saw bits and it seemed all grimdark gritty gory blergh. Which is still my general opinion of the books. And yet now I've re-read the books and have started reading the page of what things were changed for the TV, I also don't want to watch the TV because they seem to have just missed the point of a bunch of things, and made many things, especially their version of human nature, worse.
Also while it's difficult to spot racism and misogyny against a general background of everything is awful always, many people have spotted it as worse on the TV. Which takes work.
So just blergh to the lot of it, really. Humans are better than this and I feel like I need to wash my brain.
... and also to know what happens next. Dude knows his craft...
They're cruel, everyone in them is twisted, there are no good guys or even slightly less bad guys, and there's entirely too much stuff that needs warnings for underage, rape and incest. I mean any would be too much but there's really a lot. I don't think any of the younger generation are 16 yet, and yet, sex and sexual assault everywhere.
And by all I've heard the TV series added more rape. Which is grotesque.
According to the wiki I just read it also aged up all the child characters, which sidesteps some of the more epically underage bits, probably on account of them being illegal to show on the TV otherwise. But it does leave me wondering how they account for their behaviour if they're all older, and what role their elders would play when the new bosses are already of age.
I read a few episodes worth of a wiki page about changes between the book and the series, and it's just... kind of baffling? Like, okay, I understand the TV can't afford the same size of cast and will mix characters together to simple things up, but you can't do that when the characters are a compare and contrast, or actually on different sides. Or if it means destroying them before they're important to the plot??? Or rather, you can't do that without introducing ripple effect changes to the characters that... I don't see how they're supposed to get where I just read them going without doing even more damage to human nature. Also all the changes I read so far make the whole thing meaner, more cruel but also smaller. And again, not just in budget related ways. And I've read bits about how they were racist to Dothraki before, but they seem even more baffling after a book re-read. And how are people meant to react the ways they do if things are twisted so?
I didn't watch Game of Thrones the first time because I saw bits and it seemed all grimdark gritty gory blergh. Which is still my general opinion of the books. And yet now I've re-read the books and have started reading the page of what things were changed for the TV, I also don't want to watch the TV because they seem to have just missed the point of a bunch of things, and made many things, especially their version of human nature, worse.
Also while it's difficult to spot racism and misogyny against a general background of everything is awful always, many people have spotted it as worse on the TV. Which takes work.
So just blergh to the lot of it, really. Humans are better than this and I feel like I need to wash my brain.
... and also to know what happens next. Dude knows his craft...