Humans season 2
Jun. 4th, 2018 03:41 am![[personal profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png)
Finished watching season 2 of Humans.
That wasn't the same kind of depressing as the first season, or at least I didn't find it so.
... there was one synth 'suicide' where it gave consciousness back and tried to be a machine again, and one synth attempted suicide by water that was interrupted by seeing a child synth gain consciousness and get scared. Also a whole lot of murders, both synth and human. And a bit of watching synths beat up for the hell of it by humans, because humans suck.
But it seemed to me the first season went heavier on the dehumanisation of having so many human looking beings around and treating them as things. Like, the way it wrecks the humans around them. And they had a synth carer that didn't listen to the human they were looking after, so it was front and center, here is humans being treated like things by things.
This season seemed like more of an adventure. Like the point is to rescue synths and prove they're human enough.
Call me a cynic, but I feel like it wouldn't fix things to prove they're conscious. There will still be people treating them as things. That's how humans treat each other already, they're hardly going to stop.
I was reading on tumblr the other day how the founder of one type of therapy for autistic children considers us blank slates to be written upon. We have eyes and noses and mouths and all the other human parts, but we're not a person yet. ABA. The Blank Slate. I chased references as far as http://www.sentex.net/~nexus23/naa_vic.html but then hit a paywall. The quotes reckon an autistic person has to be built by the therapist.
We aren't people until they build us.
I have seen so much science fiction where they try to portray an android, looks human but isn't, and they end up with someone autistic people identify with.
I get really worked up about human rights for non humans. Because this. Because if you can look at someone with all the human parts and think they are not human, no one has rights. Rights become provisional. First, prove you're human. Before the bullet hits.
This is no news to many groups of people.
Synth rights are disability rights are minority rights are human rights.
Or what are we?
So it matters.
But we're already so bad at it I suspect adding synthetic people to the mix will go poorly however human they are.
... it is four in the morning and I'm feeling a bit grim, but, I finished watching something.
In lighter news
Colin Morgan is beautiful
but Leo Elster as he plays him somehow isn't.
It bothers me.
I mean I'll grant he took a bit of learning to look at, but
http://www.radiotimes.com/news/2016-06-17/my-day-on-the-haunted-set-of-the-living-and-the-dead/
that is one good looking man.
But then Leo is all... awkward and sideways and angry, and he's just... not the same
and it's the same guy
and it kind of ...
it bothers me, really.
All the synths we meet look different but there's many of any model so they'd look the same but would they be different people when they wake up or would they have to become different?
Actors seem to like playing variations.
There was that weird bit in Next Gen reckoning being cloned diminishes someone though. People seem to get weird about same face.
... I mean I'm being weird about same face making different reactions, but that's like with twins, just different feelings for different people. It's just weird when there's an actor on the inside who is always the same but also different.
... no, it's me being weird, I'll stop now.
I see there's a season 3 on TV now ish. I am unsure if I'll watch it.
I like adventures where things get fixed, and this is thinky stuff about how humans are unkind, and I don't know if I'm up for that. Given how long it took me to finish watching the dvds I already had, which is years, I just... maybe wont.
But I feel like I vaguely should, because there's good thinky stuff with lots of women, so.
I just kind of like Supergirl and happy endings at the minute.
That wasn't the same kind of depressing as the first season, or at least I didn't find it so.
... there was one synth 'suicide' where it gave consciousness back and tried to be a machine again, and one synth attempted suicide by water that was interrupted by seeing a child synth gain consciousness and get scared. Also a whole lot of murders, both synth and human. And a bit of watching synths beat up for the hell of it by humans, because humans suck.
But it seemed to me the first season went heavier on the dehumanisation of having so many human looking beings around and treating them as things. Like, the way it wrecks the humans around them. And they had a synth carer that didn't listen to the human they were looking after, so it was front and center, here is humans being treated like things by things.
This season seemed like more of an adventure. Like the point is to rescue synths and prove they're human enough.
Call me a cynic, but I feel like it wouldn't fix things to prove they're conscious. There will still be people treating them as things. That's how humans treat each other already, they're hardly going to stop.
I was reading on tumblr the other day how the founder of one type of therapy for autistic children considers us blank slates to be written upon. We have eyes and noses and mouths and all the other human parts, but we're not a person yet. ABA. The Blank Slate. I chased references as far as http://www.sentex.net/~nexus23/naa_vic.html but then hit a paywall. The quotes reckon an autistic person has to be built by the therapist.
We aren't people until they build us.
I have seen so much science fiction where they try to portray an android, looks human but isn't, and they end up with someone autistic people identify with.
I get really worked up about human rights for non humans. Because this. Because if you can look at someone with all the human parts and think they are not human, no one has rights. Rights become provisional. First, prove you're human. Before the bullet hits.
This is no news to many groups of people.
Synth rights are disability rights are minority rights are human rights.
Or what are we?
So it matters.
But we're already so bad at it I suspect adding synthetic people to the mix will go poorly however human they are.
... it is four in the morning and I'm feeling a bit grim, but, I finished watching something.
In lighter news
Colin Morgan is beautiful
but Leo Elster as he plays him somehow isn't.
It bothers me.
I mean I'll grant he took a bit of learning to look at, but
http://www.radiotimes.com/news/2016-06-17/my-day-on-the-haunted-set-of-the-living-and-the-dead/
that is one good looking man.
But then Leo is all... awkward and sideways and angry, and he's just... not the same
and it's the same guy
and it kind of ...
it bothers me, really.
All the synths we meet look different but there's many of any model so they'd look the same but would they be different people when they wake up or would they have to become different?
Actors seem to like playing variations.
There was that weird bit in Next Gen reckoning being cloned diminishes someone though. People seem to get weird about same face.
... I mean I'm being weird about same face making different reactions, but that's like with twins, just different feelings for different people. It's just weird when there's an actor on the inside who is always the same but also different.
... no, it's me being weird, I'll stop now.
I see there's a season 3 on TV now ish. I am unsure if I'll watch it.
I like adventures where things get fixed, and this is thinky stuff about how humans are unkind, and I don't know if I'm up for that. Given how long it took me to finish watching the dvds I already had, which is years, I just... maybe wont.
But I feel like I vaguely should, because there's good thinky stuff with lots of women, so.
I just kind of like Supergirl and happy endings at the minute.