Time War 4
Oct. 1st, 2023 11:01 am![[personal profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png){kind=small}
beccaelizabethYesterday I listened to the 8th Doctor, Bliss, and Davros in Time War 4.
Davros is on the cover and in the stories and it's a weird kind of tragedy about him.
Like they go full multiverse and find a world where Skaro beat the Time Lords *and therefor* there are no Daleks, because Kaleds and Thals had to work together to achieve that goal, and in the story now Davros is married to a Thal.
And then a bunch of time travel Dalek stuff happens
and he gives up everything to save his wife
and that becomes why she's doomed.
It's really pretty miserable.
Also for a while in the middle everyone, everyone everyone, is effectively immortal, because they're merging possibilities from across the multiverse, so for every instant where one got killed, there's another where they didnt, so, infinite Daleks.
And infinite Doctor.
And we've always reckoned what happened to Jack must remind the Doctor of the worst of the Time War, but here's something kind of even worse.
Because Davros set out to find the best possible Daleks, the most kind gentle peacekeeper Daleks, the ones that could save his world like his people had... and just found out that his terribly vulnerable world is the kindest and arguably best of all possible Skaros, and every other version of him and his creation was so full of hate, he got outvoted.
Which explains why the Twelve are in this story, thematically.
So many versions in so many wars and the Daleks are so much the Daleks.
But the Doctor is also the Doctor.
I liked when he and Bliss wake up with no memories of each other, because no memories of the Time War, and he takes him entire numbers of seconds to decide she must be one of his companions and start trusting her and sending her to do stuff. He just goes all in on any random human. It's one of his better aspects, and obviously really handy for storytelling.
Time Lords do not come out of these stories looking good. Or even remotely acceptable.
It's interesting too that when they discover (a) there was a Time War and (b) they can't remember who the sides were their first guess was
other Time Lords.
Like, they're that arrogant... but it's not like they're wrong wrong.
I like these Time War stories.
But they're just seriously dark and you know how they're going to end and unlike most Doctor Who the answer is
very, very, poorly.
So I'm going to keep listening, but I think I should mix in a bunch of other story as well.
Davros is on the cover and in the stories and it's a weird kind of tragedy about him.
Like they go full multiverse and find a world where Skaro beat the Time Lords *and therefor* there are no Daleks, because Kaleds and Thals had to work together to achieve that goal, and in the story now Davros is married to a Thal.
And then a bunch of time travel Dalek stuff happens
and he gives up everything to save his wife
and that becomes why she's doomed.
It's really pretty miserable.
Also for a while in the middle everyone, everyone everyone, is effectively immortal, because they're merging possibilities from across the multiverse, so for every instant where one got killed, there's another where they didnt, so, infinite Daleks.
And infinite Doctor.
And we've always reckoned what happened to Jack must remind the Doctor of the worst of the Time War, but here's something kind of even worse.
Because Davros set out to find the best possible Daleks, the most kind gentle peacekeeper Daleks, the ones that could save his world like his people had... and just found out that his terribly vulnerable world is the kindest and arguably best of all possible Skaros, and every other version of him and his creation was so full of hate, he got outvoted.
Which explains why the Twelve are in this story, thematically.
So many versions in so many wars and the Daleks are so much the Daleks.
But the Doctor is also the Doctor.
I liked when he and Bliss wake up with no memories of each other, because no memories of the Time War, and he takes him entire numbers of seconds to decide she must be one of his companions and start trusting her and sending her to do stuff. He just goes all in on any random human. It's one of his better aspects, and obviously really handy for storytelling.
Time Lords do not come out of these stories looking good. Or even remotely acceptable.
It's interesting too that when they discover (a) there was a Time War and (b) they can't remember who the sides were their first guess was
other Time Lords.
Like, they're that arrogant... but it's not like they're wrong wrong.
I like these Time War stories.
But they're just seriously dark and you know how they're going to end and unlike most Doctor Who the answer is
very, very, poorly.
So I'm going to keep listening, but I think I should mix in a bunch of other story as well.