crossovers
Mar. 27th, 2004 12:15 am![[personal profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png){kind=small}
beccaelizabethSometimes I think of a crossover that should just never happen.
And then of course I start thinking of ways it could/should happen, because, challenge, and contrary.
Like Batverse/Buffverse.
I blame Te for this entirely, but the batfamily are hanging out in my brain again recently. To the point where they start turning up randomly in unrelated fic ideas. So now, crossover thoughts.
Imagine dropping Ethan and Giles into the Batverse.
My first thought is costumes. Do kids dress up as superheroes at halloween, in a world where there actually *are* such people? I know the DCU has comics in their comics about their heroes, so Guy Gardner can go to a comic convention and be asked to sign the cover of the issue where he's all cowering with Lobo looming over him (he tore it to bitses instead). And they have licensed lines of toys. So maybe there are licensed costumes, or just little kids deciding they're Robin today.
So now I'm thinking factory full of Batman, Robin, Nightwing costumes, Ethan's particular speciality, and Gotham really overloaded with Batfamily for the night. Because, how messed up would that get? If everyone turned into the Batman or Robin they believed in, pretty wild, because then the canon guys would have to meet all these perceptions of themselves. And some of them would be vicious, supernatural beasts. Vampires even. Some of them could be pretty close to the truth. Or maybe they'd all tap into real knowledge of the batpeople somehow, like Xander's soldier knowledge, and just process it all on different systems, come up with a hundred different ways to be Batman or Robin if they had the skills on each of these different personalities. Or a mix of both, for maximum confusion.
What Ethan really does in stories is bring stuff into the light as doesnt want to be there, break down barriers to communication, let people express what they would rather hide in their usual minds. Note I don't say right minds, because so many people are so far from a right mind. So bringing Ethan into the Batverse would uncover a whole lot of stuff.
Why would Giles be there? I don't really know actually, but Ethan without Giles is kinda like Joker without Batman, whole lot less fun. They've got this feedback loop going on. And actually since Giles got sent to superhero school when he was a kid and then had his whole life dedicated to fighting bad things in the dark, you can draw a lot of comparisons with the batfamily. Plus I'm trying to figure out who is the most fucked up, and coming up blank. I mean Batman does have that outright split personality thing going, and I usually hate and loathe when a story makes Ripper a seperate personality, but this would be one context where the idea could be made interesting. Or perhaps just Giles worrying about the idea, seeing too many similarities. And we have the kid sidekick, oh my god what am I getting them into vibe.
And now I'm just randomly struck by the idea of Buffy and Nightwing, um, dancing. And I'm rather liking that idea.
See, crossover with mileage. Ways to illuminate both sets of characters. Stuff in common.
Whole lack of ability to write it myself.
Usual way it goes.
And then of course I start thinking of ways it could/should happen, because, challenge, and contrary.
Like Batverse/Buffverse.
I blame Te for this entirely, but the batfamily are hanging out in my brain again recently. To the point where they start turning up randomly in unrelated fic ideas. So now, crossover thoughts.
Imagine dropping Ethan and Giles into the Batverse.
My first thought is costumes. Do kids dress up as superheroes at halloween, in a world where there actually *are* such people? I know the DCU has comics in their comics about their heroes, so Guy Gardner can go to a comic convention and be asked to sign the cover of the issue where he's all cowering with Lobo looming over him (he tore it to bitses instead). And they have licensed lines of toys. So maybe there are licensed costumes, or just little kids deciding they're Robin today.
So now I'm thinking factory full of Batman, Robin, Nightwing costumes, Ethan's particular speciality, and Gotham really overloaded with Batfamily for the night. Because, how messed up would that get? If everyone turned into the Batman or Robin they believed in, pretty wild, because then the canon guys would have to meet all these perceptions of themselves. And some of them would be vicious, supernatural beasts. Vampires even. Some of them could be pretty close to the truth. Or maybe they'd all tap into real knowledge of the batpeople somehow, like Xander's soldier knowledge, and just process it all on different systems, come up with a hundred different ways to be Batman or Robin if they had the skills on each of these different personalities. Or a mix of both, for maximum confusion.
What Ethan really does in stories is bring stuff into the light as doesnt want to be there, break down barriers to communication, let people express what they would rather hide in their usual minds. Note I don't say right minds, because so many people are so far from a right mind. So bringing Ethan into the Batverse would uncover a whole lot of stuff.
Why would Giles be there? I don't really know actually, but Ethan without Giles is kinda like Joker without Batman, whole lot less fun. They've got this feedback loop going on. And actually since Giles got sent to superhero school when he was a kid and then had his whole life dedicated to fighting bad things in the dark, you can draw a lot of comparisons with the batfamily. Plus I'm trying to figure out who is the most fucked up, and coming up blank. I mean Batman does have that outright split personality thing going, and I usually hate and loathe when a story makes Ripper a seperate personality, but this would be one context where the idea could be made interesting. Or perhaps just Giles worrying about the idea, seeing too many similarities. And we have the kid sidekick, oh my god what am I getting them into vibe.
And now I'm just randomly struck by the idea of Buffy and Nightwing, um, dancing. And I'm rather liking that idea.
See, crossover with mileage. Ways to illuminate both sets of characters. Stuff in common.
Whole lack of ability to write it myself.
Usual way it goes.
