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beccaelizabethOkay, that title? Thankfully not true. But wouldn't it be scary if it was?
Looking at the new series as a set of lessons or instructions we learn:
Dump the mechanic for the guy with the flash ride. The mechanic will trail along after you anyway, for years, and you'll get to go interesting-if-potentially-deadly places in the meantime.
Tell the guy you'll stay with him forever. That 'til-death-do-us-part' thing clearly needs destruct testing! Ignore the thing where mostly he tells you to run and/or bundles you in the only available ride out - escape is not how you Prove Your Love!
Have no backup plan. Even if your Forever-guy can't stop you from falling, daddy will be there to catch you!
Even if he wasn't known for reliability in the first place.
And is dead.
(PS: Your parents can get back together from beyond the grave! Ignore all those times you've seen where this would clearly be a Very Bad Thing, ie ones involving selling granny or scribbles coming to life. These clearly don't apply to you.)(Even though your alternate-mum dumped him.)(What does she know?)
(PPS: Mechanic boyfriend still there if you are dropped! No worries!)
(PPPS: Still cry a lot when having last conversation with flash ride guy. You have ended up rich, surrounded by all your family including the dead ones, and due todaddy being boss of company travel experience have flash job. Also you are not dead. But your love was meant to be forever!)
... and that's just from Rose ...
Donna gets to learn:
Sometimes they only want you for your catalysing potential.
(This in no way reflects on the Doctor. He's clearly a trouble magnet in his own right and has no need for people who will wander off and need rescuing just to keep his life interesting.)
Martha:
When he says it means nothing, believe it. Contrary to all other evidence. He's just being alien, you see, and not flirting at all, and all that restarting his heart had no metaphoric significance whatsoever. Which is a bit lucky if you intend a career as a doctor - work in ER, end up a... CPR-tease?
... ANYways ...
He doesn't fancy you, so go find someone who does.
(If they're in the same line of work and live near you and probably intend to stay nearish for quite a long time then that's very helpful.)
... see, that's actually sensible. I'm shocked. Except, that was after:
Ignore the fact that he clearly got his arse kicked right there in front of you. Forget how your training as a doctor could lead to practical help and support for those in need. Don't try organising people to do anything on their own behalf. What you really need in a time of crisis is to wander around and tell everyone that if they say his name and wish real hard the (Time) Lord will save the slaves from their Master.
... on top of that 'and then dump his arse for not fancying you' just looks odd. It's like... the (Time) Lord loves you but not like that???
... methinks the religious subtext can go away now.
And then... the other thing?
Where if the guy doesn't properly appreciate you then go find someone who does?
... why is it the Doctor isn't the good guy in that one?
I mean when he's travelling with two people Mickey's "You can only chase one of us and it's never going to be me" is pointing out a fact, albeit an uncomfortable one. More companions, need to be two places at once, need to prioritise by some method. Possibly relative jeopardy. Sounded more like relative amounts of caring. Uncomfortable.
When the other person isn't there any more? Only one person to chase! Why it not work out?
Well, okay, he did chase her, just didn't tell her she was brilliant and fantastic and he only takes the best. Really he should have done telling.
Looking at the Master's relationships there's also, and again I'm with the agreement on this,
Marry a violent man and he will be violent to you.
Lucy Saxon: object lesson.
See, we all have evil empress fantasies, be the witch-queen and all that... er, or, okay, maybe not all, but... the point is: Marrying a guy with power is not a way to get your own power. The powerful guy stomp all over you and it's no fun at all. Fabulous dresses don't make up for bruises.
But hey, u still evil? U kill him for us.
... Actually, there's another way up to look at that - the Doctor was just proposing to move in with the bastard. She was saving him from making her mistake.
... after that 'you're better than him' bit though it's pretty much her continuing to prove she isn't.
I read fic where Lucy turns out to be a full co-conspirator, maybe even a Time Lord herself, and while that makes for interesting plot twist, it loses the lesson.
I've seen people see their favourite bad guy try and kill his baby and babymother and still be all defending the poor misunderstood woobie. He wasn't misunderstood, he was a murdering bastard, but somehow they hadn't noticed. So it seems the whole 'bad man' concept needs to be explained clearly with all the knock on consequences shown.
The 'Spike' version where the love really does work out in the end is just... not a safe story for women to believe. For anyone to believe, really. The Doctor shutting himself in the TARDIS with the Master doesn't actually add up to a good mutually healthy treatment plan.
Which is not to say that they can't be redeemed. Far from it. Just that it should involve a wide circle of people including professional mental health care and a wider community. Not one person throwing themselves at it until somebody breaks.
What Jack learns about relationships is team is more important than sex, and team+sex is best ever. I again have no problem with this.
... the +sex is not immediately apparent on the kids show.
But making team and respect more important than fancying people just about is.
Which, you know, works out.
Sometimes I watch shows and try and figure what the lesson is and it all comes out as "Scream and wait for a man to save you" and it's just made of *facepalm*. Doctor Who does not actually work out like that. Mostly. I think. Though it skims it tight a few times.
(PS: I do actually like Doctor Who. Complaining is a form of affection. Right? I mean, it always is in the movies...)
Looking at the new series as a set of lessons or instructions we learn:
Dump the mechanic for the guy with the flash ride. The mechanic will trail along after you anyway, for years, and you'll get to go interesting-if-potentially-deadly places in the meantime.
Tell the guy you'll stay with him forever. That 'til-death-do-us-part' thing clearly needs destruct testing! Ignore the thing where mostly he tells you to run and/or bundles you in the only available ride out - escape is not how you Prove Your Love!
Have no backup plan. Even if your Forever-guy can't stop you from falling, daddy will be there to catch you!
Even if he wasn't known for reliability in the first place.
And is dead.
(PS: Your parents can get back together from beyond the grave! Ignore all those times you've seen where this would clearly be a Very Bad Thing, ie ones involving selling granny or scribbles coming to life. These clearly don't apply to you.)(Even though your alternate-mum dumped him.)(What does she know?)
(PPS: Mechanic boyfriend still there if you are dropped! No worries!)
(PPPS: Still cry a lot when having last conversation with flash ride guy. You have ended up rich, surrounded by all your family including the dead ones, and due to
... and that's just from Rose ...
Donna gets to learn:
Sometimes they only want you for your catalysing potential.
(This in no way reflects on the Doctor. He's clearly a trouble magnet in his own right and has no need for people who will wander off and need rescuing just to keep his life interesting.)
Martha:
When he says it means nothing, believe it. Contrary to all other evidence. He's just being alien, you see, and not flirting at all, and all that restarting his heart had no metaphoric significance whatsoever. Which is a bit lucky if you intend a career as a doctor - work in ER, end up a... CPR-tease?
... ANYways ...
He doesn't fancy you, so go find someone who does.
(If they're in the same line of work and live near you and probably intend to stay nearish for quite a long time then that's very helpful.)
... see, that's actually sensible. I'm shocked. Except, that was after:
Ignore the fact that he clearly got his arse kicked right there in front of you. Forget how your training as a doctor could lead to practical help and support for those in need. Don't try organising people to do anything on their own behalf. What you really need in a time of crisis is to wander around and tell everyone that if they say his name and wish real hard the (Time) Lord will save the slaves from their Master.
... on top of that 'and then dump his arse for not fancying you' just looks odd. It's like... the (Time) Lord loves you but not like that???
... methinks the religious subtext can go away now.
And then... the other thing?
Where if the guy doesn't properly appreciate you then go find someone who does?
... why is it the Doctor isn't the good guy in that one?
I mean when he's travelling with two people Mickey's "You can only chase one of us and it's never going to be me" is pointing out a fact, albeit an uncomfortable one. More companions, need to be two places at once, need to prioritise by some method. Possibly relative jeopardy. Sounded more like relative amounts of caring. Uncomfortable.
When the other person isn't there any more? Only one person to chase! Why it not work out?
Well, okay, he did chase her, just didn't tell her she was brilliant and fantastic and he only takes the best. Really he should have done telling.
Looking at the Master's relationships there's also, and again I'm with the agreement on this,
Marry a violent man and he will be violent to you.
Lucy Saxon: object lesson.
See, we all have evil empress fantasies, be the witch-queen and all that... er, or, okay, maybe not all, but... the point is: Marrying a guy with power is not a way to get your own power. The powerful guy stomp all over you and it's no fun at all. Fabulous dresses don't make up for bruises.
But hey, u still evil? U kill him for us.
... Actually, there's another way up to look at that - the Doctor was just proposing to move in with the bastard. She was saving him from making her mistake.
... after that 'you're better than him' bit though it's pretty much her continuing to prove she isn't.
I read fic where Lucy turns out to be a full co-conspirator, maybe even a Time Lord herself, and while that makes for interesting plot twist, it loses the lesson.
I've seen people see their favourite bad guy try and kill his baby and babymother and still be all defending the poor misunderstood woobie. He wasn't misunderstood, he was a murdering bastard, but somehow they hadn't noticed. So it seems the whole 'bad man' concept needs to be explained clearly with all the knock on consequences shown.
The 'Spike' version where the love really does work out in the end is just... not a safe story for women to believe. For anyone to believe, really. The Doctor shutting himself in the TARDIS with the Master doesn't actually add up to a good mutually healthy treatment plan.
Which is not to say that they can't be redeemed. Far from it. Just that it should involve a wide circle of people including professional mental health care and a wider community. Not one person throwing themselves at it until somebody breaks.
What Jack learns about relationships is team is more important than sex, and team+sex is best ever. I again have no problem with this.
... the +sex is not immediately apparent on the kids show.
But making team and respect more important than fancying people just about is.
Which, you know, works out.
Sometimes I watch shows and try and figure what the lesson is and it all comes out as "Scream and wait for a man to save you" and it's just made of *facepalm*. Doctor Who does not actually work out like that. Mostly. I think. Though it skims it tight a few times.
(PS: I do actually like Doctor Who. Complaining is a form of affection. Right? I mean, it always is in the movies...)