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Mar. 26th, 2008 09:58 pm![[personal profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png){kind=small}
beccaelizabethThere's a top ten fictional characters you wouldn't kick out of bed meme reappearing on f-list.
And I could list some.
But I was looking at my first thoughts and realising, actually, they're not the ones I thought were best looking or who I was most attracted to when I was watching. They're the ones I write fic about. And, yeah, sometimes I write fic because I'm attracted, but that's *so* not the case with Andrew, or Owen. I remain vaguely embarrassed about fancying either of them. But my Buffyverse people are Giles and Ethan and Andrew and Oz before any of the others, cause I had a ton of fanfic in my head exploring those guys. And in Torchwood I started writing Owen cause I really *didn't* like him and wasn't sure I could write him from there, but then I discovered Owen didn't like him either, so we had that in common for starters. And eventually I like Owen, the way I like Ethan, or for that matter the Master - don't leave out what they've done or what they would do, but there's so much interesting about them. And it's like this feedback loop, cause there has to be something that gets me interested, but it doesn't have to be something like attraction to end up that way.
I have this theory that basically it's the watching people an hour a week that makes them attractive. I mean, it's harder to prove off US TV, cause they seem to have a narrower range of standard pretty shown. But on UK TV? There isn't much that JB and DT have in common in appearance, yet they're both gorgeous. How does that happen? Paying attention.
... but not only paying attention. Or I'd fancy everyone off every show ever.
*pause, ponders*
... okay, er, that's... not wildly far from the truth right there.
People are interesting. I wish to shag more of them. *nods*
I think there's a thing somewhere in there about the difference between 'attractive' and 'hot', and how visuals can only be the one but narrative can make many many the other. People are interesting, you wish to spend more time with them - an hour a week or so if the writers are doing it right - and then for a fairly large segment of fandom at least there starts to be thinking about sex. Except not about everyone at once. Usually.
It's kind of like how fanfic has taught me there's ways to connect *any* two characters, and I don't just mean at the hips. There's things they'll have in common, or have as opposites in interesting ways, or something. There's always stuff they could bring to a relationship, sexual or caring or team or otherwise.
This leads to tangents reckoning arranged marriages could work. I mean, there's this one person then you have to pay attention to, try and connect with, so.
Except then there's also just as many ways people fail to connect, are opposites in horribly clashing ways, fall apart or even pull each other apart. Enemy slash is the more extreme version, but you get a lot from OTP slash that has to break up canon pairings too. Except quite often it's not done very well. Character bashing not so necessary. Though, actually, suspect people talk about their exes much the same way, yesno? They're dumped, therefore they're teh evol. Or something.
... trying to figure out how to be human from television is a perilous and unlikely path.
And I could list some.
But I was looking at my first thoughts and realising, actually, they're not the ones I thought were best looking or who I was most attracted to when I was watching. They're the ones I write fic about. And, yeah, sometimes I write fic because I'm attracted, but that's *so* not the case with Andrew, or Owen. I remain vaguely embarrassed about fancying either of them. But my Buffyverse people are Giles and Ethan and Andrew and Oz before any of the others, cause I had a ton of fanfic in my head exploring those guys. And in Torchwood I started writing Owen cause I really *didn't* like him and wasn't sure I could write him from there, but then I discovered Owen didn't like him either, so we had that in common for starters. And eventually I like Owen, the way I like Ethan, or for that matter the Master - don't leave out what they've done or what they would do, but there's so much interesting about them. And it's like this feedback loop, cause there has to be something that gets me interested, but it doesn't have to be something like attraction to end up that way.
I have this theory that basically it's the watching people an hour a week that makes them attractive. I mean, it's harder to prove off US TV, cause they seem to have a narrower range of standard pretty shown. But on UK TV? There isn't much that JB and DT have in common in appearance, yet they're both gorgeous. How does that happen? Paying attention.
... but not only paying attention. Or I'd fancy everyone off every show ever.
*pause, ponders*
... okay, er, that's... not wildly far from the truth right there.
People are interesting. I wish to shag more of them. *nods*
I think there's a thing somewhere in there about the difference between 'attractive' and 'hot', and how visuals can only be the one but narrative can make many many the other. People are interesting, you wish to spend more time with them - an hour a week or so if the writers are doing it right - and then for a fairly large segment of fandom at least there starts to be thinking about sex. Except not about everyone at once. Usually.
It's kind of like how fanfic has taught me there's ways to connect *any* two characters, and I don't just mean at the hips. There's things they'll have in common, or have as opposites in interesting ways, or something. There's always stuff they could bring to a relationship, sexual or caring or team or otherwise.
This leads to tangents reckoning arranged marriages could work. I mean, there's this one person then you have to pay attention to, try and connect with, so.
Except then there's also just as many ways people fail to connect, are opposites in horribly clashing ways, fall apart or even pull each other apart. Enemy slash is the more extreme version, but you get a lot from OTP slash that has to break up canon pairings too. Except quite often it's not done very well. Character bashing not so necessary. Though, actually, suspect people talk about their exes much the same way, yesno? They're dumped, therefore they're teh evol. Or something.
... trying to figure out how to be human from television is a perilous and unlikely path.