Doctor Who
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beccaelizabethMy mum phoned. In the middle of Doctor Who. When I'd told her I'm going home to watch Doctor Who. And it wasn't even vaguely urgent, or indeed relevant. And we're talking again tomorrow.
:eyeroll:
So, anyway, I watched Doctor Who, but quite a lot of the atmosphere got popped by mum updating my answerphone on The Saga Of The House. *facepalm*
Other than that: I likes :-)
I knew they'd be able to jump to the ship, but I hadn't thought about the artificial gravity. It's interesting that River could get fwooshed away so far when there was artificial gravity on the outside of the ship. Maybe the door is different.
I *love* what they did with the gravity though. It starts out as a game, and just when you might have forgot it... :-D
I also love that we already know what the crack is without knowing what the crack is. Pure Time energy, unwriting time, deleting people, making it so they never were. Making the Weeping Angels never have existed? Or just those Angels? ... or is this when the Angels learn to feed on Time? Is that why they were killing people with neck snaps, they hadn't become the Angels he met last time? That would be nifty. But they were trying to feed on the crack anyway. Hrrmmm. No, wait, they had to be complicated space-time events, they had to have already been messing around with time, in order to be closing the crack. So they just snapped people so they could do talking. Okays.
But I was all sparkly with Thoughts about what we could do with the 'verse now, about the implications of the Not Remembering. This? This is so much more. It's the grand cosmic reset button that we didn't get when 9 started. But it's not presented as 'here's our shiny new TV series, we make up a new thing' and we're supposed to like the new thing and forget the old. The forget is *scary*. It would be a *bad* thing to forget the past. Any bit of the past.
She forgot Daleks. Did it eat the Daleks? The whole Dalek invasion, did it eat that? What did it do to Daleks?
What will it do to the Doctor?
If the Doctor jumps in that thing... if... ooh, oh, I just thought, I have to say my other thought, which I thought last week but probably didn't write down: Symmetry. The Doctor watched River Song die, that was the first time he met her. So I reckon she's going to watch him die, that's the first time she meets him. Only now, with this Stormcage bit, with her killing someone and she can't tell the Doctor about it... that means it's the Doctor's personal future, so... River killed the Doctor? That's why he wouldn't trust her? But, here's the thing, he wanted Amy to run, to risk death, because the alternative was being unwritten. If the choices are the Doctor dying or a universe without the Doctor - a universe that always had been without the Doctor... you can't just do that. You couldn't risk how much would unravel. He saves us, he always saves us. So, even loving and respecting him, *especially* loving him, and being the person who wouldn't want to lose even one line of history... oh that's a solid reason to kill him.
Oh that's *shiny*.
Also, if I can think of it from the data we've got, still too simple.
But the universe without the Doctor would be a fun elseworld, because it wouldn't be Turn Left, everything will fall apart, it would be radically different, Inferno or worse, everything fell apart long ago... or the end of the universe, teh end of time, because without the Doctor who would stop the Daleks? And without him who would stop the Time Lords? And we could see who the Master would be without him... so much shiny!
As long as you fix it by the end. That would be what makes it shiny, the good trick of it. Is no fun to write Doctor Who without the Doctor, makes no sense.
So I have head of shiny fizzy thinkings.
Back to *this* episode:
I thought he made a mistake with the Angels. Just the one. I thought it would be better if we *heard* them move, the great stone-on-stone sound, but we still never saw them. Because the second we the audience saw them moving they became a thing of the Doctor's world. Our eyes weren't holding them still any more. It reboxes the scary, whereas last week pulled it right out of the TV and this week put it in everyone's heads. But then, of course, you have to rebox teh scary, you have to show how the Doctor fixes it. And this is a good solid one. Stone *falls*. Falling angels. Excellent.
Then, right at the end? Amy/11 ? Oh that was fun. The Doctor persistently Not Getting It. That bit about relative lifespans, and Amy is all 'wasn't thinking of something that long'. That was *fun*. Also fun: the number of brain breaky shrieks that will induce for the number of different reasons. And the fun quotes too
'I'm 907!'
'So you mean it's been a while?'
'Ye... No! No.'
(imprecise quotage)
The subtitles missed the little 'yeah' before the No but I'm pretty sure I heard it. For much LOL.
The thing is though, important plot stuff was happening, the Doctor was figuring things out. It's about Amy.
... duck pond, how is it a duck pond when there are no ducks, well the ducks flew away, flew into the time thing? hrm. trivial thing but easy. but then how does Amy know it's a duck pond?
But these cracks, they actually are following her, and it's her wedding day that the 'base code of the universe' (awesome) translated to. And she was the one most in danger from the shiny so we know what she's risking. Fall into this light and never have happened... except to other time travellers.
... the preview says (skip)The Doctor will take her fiance along with them next time, make him a time traveller. Is he thinking... well, that way he'd remember Amy, no matter what happened to her... unless they both get plain killed that is...
I need to watch the episode again.
I think it wrapped the Angel story and did brilliant things to the crack story (I kind of love how Doctor Who is doing crack fiction now) (... wait, now? Always!) and then it added fun to the River Song story. Because nothing is ruled out now, things have just gone wide, wide open... and like the Doctor said, time can be rewritten. So there's only what we think we know.
Which simples up a lot of the continuity, er, complications, because within 'verse it's ... I was going to say it's not that there were a lot of writers, but come to think it exactly *is* that there were a lot of writers, every Time Lord and every time traveller, rewriting history.
Woah.
:-D
:eyeroll:
So, anyway, I watched Doctor Who, but quite a lot of the atmosphere got popped by mum updating my answerphone on The Saga Of The House. *facepalm*
Other than that: I likes :-)
I knew they'd be able to jump to the ship, but I hadn't thought about the artificial gravity. It's interesting that River could get fwooshed away so far when there was artificial gravity on the outside of the ship. Maybe the door is different.
I *love* what they did with the gravity though. It starts out as a game, and just when you might have forgot it... :-D
I also love that we already know what the crack is without knowing what the crack is. Pure Time energy, unwriting time, deleting people, making it so they never were. Making the Weeping Angels never have existed? Or just those Angels? ... or is this when the Angels learn to feed on Time? Is that why they were killing people with neck snaps, they hadn't become the Angels he met last time? That would be nifty. But they were trying to feed on the crack anyway. Hrrmmm. No, wait, they had to be complicated space-time events, they had to have already been messing around with time, in order to be closing the crack. So they just snapped people so they could do talking. Okays.
But I was all sparkly with Thoughts about what we could do with the 'verse now, about the implications of the Not Remembering. This? This is so much more. It's the grand cosmic reset button that we didn't get when 9 started. But it's not presented as 'here's our shiny new TV series, we make up a new thing' and we're supposed to like the new thing and forget the old. The forget is *scary*. It would be a *bad* thing to forget the past. Any bit of the past.
She forgot Daleks. Did it eat the Daleks? The whole Dalek invasion, did it eat that? What did it do to Daleks?
What will it do to the Doctor?
If the Doctor jumps in that thing... if... ooh, oh, I just thought, I have to say my other thought, which I thought last week but probably didn't write down: Symmetry. The Doctor watched River Song die, that was the first time he met her. So I reckon she's going to watch him die, that's the first time she meets him. Only now, with this Stormcage bit, with her killing someone and she can't tell the Doctor about it... that means it's the Doctor's personal future, so... River killed the Doctor? That's why he wouldn't trust her? But, here's the thing, he wanted Amy to run, to risk death, because the alternative was being unwritten. If the choices are the Doctor dying or a universe without the Doctor - a universe that always had been without the Doctor... you can't just do that. You couldn't risk how much would unravel. He saves us, he always saves us. So, even loving and respecting him, *especially* loving him, and being the person who wouldn't want to lose even one line of history... oh that's a solid reason to kill him.
Oh that's *shiny*.
Also, if I can think of it from the data we've got, still too simple.
But the universe without the Doctor would be a fun elseworld, because it wouldn't be Turn Left, everything will fall apart, it would be radically different, Inferno or worse, everything fell apart long ago... or the end of the universe, teh end of time, because without the Doctor who would stop the Daleks? And without him who would stop the Time Lords? And we could see who the Master would be without him... so much shiny!
As long as you fix it by the end. That would be what makes it shiny, the good trick of it. Is no fun to write Doctor Who without the Doctor, makes no sense.
So I have head of shiny fizzy thinkings.
Back to *this* episode:
I thought he made a mistake with the Angels. Just the one. I thought it would be better if we *heard* them move, the great stone-on-stone sound, but we still never saw them. Because the second we the audience saw them moving they became a thing of the Doctor's world. Our eyes weren't holding them still any more. It reboxes the scary, whereas last week pulled it right out of the TV and this week put it in everyone's heads. But then, of course, you have to rebox teh scary, you have to show how the Doctor fixes it. And this is a good solid one. Stone *falls*. Falling angels. Excellent.
Then, right at the end? Amy/11 ? Oh that was fun. The Doctor persistently Not Getting It. That bit about relative lifespans, and Amy is all 'wasn't thinking of something that long'. That was *fun*. Also fun: the number of brain breaky shrieks that will induce for the number of different reasons. And the fun quotes too
'I'm 907!'
'So you mean it's been a while?'
'Ye... No! No.'
(imprecise quotage)
The subtitles missed the little 'yeah' before the No but I'm pretty sure I heard it. For much LOL.
The thing is though, important plot stuff was happening, the Doctor was figuring things out. It's about Amy.
... duck pond, how is it a duck pond when there are no ducks, well the ducks flew away, flew into the time thing? hrm. trivial thing but easy. but then how does Amy know it's a duck pond?
But these cracks, they actually are following her, and it's her wedding day that the 'base code of the universe' (awesome) translated to. And she was the one most in danger from the shiny so we know what she's risking. Fall into this light and never have happened... except to other time travellers.
... the preview says (skip)The Doctor will take her fiance along with them next time, make him a time traveller. Is he thinking... well, that way he'd remember Amy, no matter what happened to her... unless they both get plain killed that is...
I need to watch the episode again.
I think it wrapped the Angel story and did brilliant things to the crack story (I kind of love how Doctor Who is doing crack fiction now) (... wait, now? Always!) and then it added fun to the River Song story. Because nothing is ruled out now, things have just gone wide, wide open... and like the Doctor said, time can be rewritten. So there's only what we think we know.
Which simples up a lot of the continuity, er, complications, because within 'verse it's ... I was going to say it's not that there were a lot of writers, but come to think it exactly *is* that there were a lot of writers, every Time Lord and every time traveller, rewriting history.
Woah.
:-D
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Date: 2010-05-02 12:37 am (UTC)And made me feel all ick because I hadn't noticed that. I try and notice, because it's dead creepy when TV does that, but that time I was busy both giggling and figuring out Plot.
But that's important. No should mean no, especially on kids TV.
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Date: 2010-05-02 12:37 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2010-05-02 12:43 am (UTC)so in story I get it
but outside the story it's still ignoring a really important line
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Date: 2010-05-02 04:29 pm (UTC)Oh, oh it SO IS a different Doctor with the forehead!kiss bit. The Doctor clearly leaves and then this one turns up with a jacket on a few seconds later.
I hadn't thought, I hadn't noticed, but OMG yes. Clue! Shiny giant Clue! Because Moffat plays with Time, and it's about the crack that connects two bits of time together that shouldn't have met, and and and... Clue!
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Date: 2010-05-01 07:14 pm (UTC)as was the forest on a spaceship
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Date: 2010-05-01 07:16 pm (UTC)many bits I agree with.
... the 'walk like you can see' was a bit off, yes. But a playground game in the making. follow the noise of the sonic!