more counting

http://characterscount.pbwiki.com/Torchwood#view=page
http://characterscount.pbworks.com/Torchwood-S1%2C-S2
Yes, someone made a wiki so if the theoretical crowds of fans all help count then we can put all the numbers in the same place.
Still working on formatting, standardising and accessibility.
It was pointed out my pretty color codes aren't helpful for people that don't see pretty colors.
Also, some of them are too pale for me to read, now I think about it. :eyeroll:
So I made it a bit different.
I will make it different again once I think of a better way to phrase it.

I also added a column for the test the person counting SG1 does where it's the race equivalent of Bechdel, two people of color talking about something other than a white person. I've filled in a few, but where there's more than two characters involved I might have to watch again to check. And I'm not watching again for a while. But it being a wiki other people can fill in the boxes if they happen to know.
... okay, actually, I could figure it out from my notes and have spent the morning doing so.

I keep feeling like the thing where two people of color seldom get to talk is less of a Thing than the one where two women don't get to talk to each other, because there's a half the country of women and less than half of people of color here. But I also am the first to say it doesn't matter if women aren't much in the military or whatever because they're making up stories and they can make stories better. Also while a random sample might be 10% any given person of color will have ancestors of color too, just for starters, so their lives aren't random and should have more people in. So I think it's my feeling I need to change.

details on people of color below the cut
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I see dead people. And count them.

More Torchwood numbers.
If I stick to just counting speaking parts then I can count how many speaking characters get dead, how many are women, and how many are people of color. I can also count black men, because there's a specific issue there. But must remember 'dead black men' is a subset of 'dead people of color'. Do I need a column for 'dead white men' or is that just the remainder? ...I need a column.
I can only count what I see, and may be inaccurate.
This being Torchwood many of these characters are either dead before they're speaking or die more than once. ( Read more... )

I did attempt to count corpses as well, but there's some crowd scene issues going on. I could freeze frame and have a go, but massive job much?

Right. Table under the cut. It may not be a very useful table, but I've made it now so I'll post it.

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And now for season 2:
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There's also longevity tests to play with: Who makes it through two minutes, who gets two seasons, who's still going? Maybe I do that later.


Okay, I have *tried* to make tables but I keep on thinking of more ways up to put the data. Is it one black man dead out of one black men ever, or one out of many? I need another column or something. Wait, I'll write it as fractions, so 0/1 means one black guy survived and 1/1 means there was one black man and he died.

There were 11 black men with words to say in the two seasons. Two died.
There were 13 black women with speaking parts, some of them in several episodes. Two died. Plus the woman in the recording was already dead.

So there's a pretty good chance of survival in Torchwood even for black people.
Win.

Under this next cut goes a list of all the dead speaking characters.

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I also made a little list of queer relationships in answer to someone elses post so I'll paste them in here because I have the window open.
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If there is any more counting to do someone else can do it. I have head of fuzzy and forgot both breakfast and lunch. *facepalm*