Avengers and Gondor

Today, watched Return of the King.
Kept getting interrupted in the good bits and having to sit there with the pause on for ten minutes.
So, kept getting ideas for if there was an Avengers fusion.
... because my brain is full of Avengers, not because they are very much at all like hobbits.
There's a whole lot of armour around in Gondor. Even though the only time we see people making weapons and armour it's because they are Evil and stinky and all that bad stuff. Clearly it's only wrong if you make more than one piece at a time or don't hang out in a forest while working.
Anyways, lots and lots and lots of armour. So obviously there's someone there who makes armour for them. So that's Tony.
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I don't want to write a story about how everyone's parentage and place of birth determines their character. If I write about Avengers, it's more about how very unexpectedly different they grew, at least for ones I know some of their background for.

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Tony the armourer.

And instead of being famous for a broken sword, their King had a Shield.
(His guards are still known as SHIELDs in honor of that)

But: Steve is not a King. That's kind of key to him. The other side were setting themselves up as special, he's just a kid from Brooklyn.

If the Stark men got tired of waiting for the King to get off his arse and return, maybe they just set out to make one. Not just a super soldier project, then.


But I was also thinking, there's that bit where Aragorn turns out to be nearly ninety. Steve is, but he didn't live it all. But there's another Avenger who, possibly, maybe, depending which wiki I read for possible backgrounds, might be a lot older than she appears.
Natasha as a Ranger? Slipping in and out of all the dark places. Rangers as spies.
Clint with his bow is an obvious Elf, except I'm not having elves because boring. (I know I've thrown out everything that makes it Tolkien OR epic fantasy by now, but *shrugs* I was bored).
But then Clint-and-Natasha can be like Arwen-and-Aragorn. Only very, very different. All the different.


If it's Natasha who is the secret heir of a lost throne... erm, Romanov? I think my story just hopped geography rather.
ANYways, if it's her who is the lost heir, she's not quite the King they were waiting for.
I want to play with that.

I have no idea what Clint would be doing aside from following her around with a bow. That seems insufficiently characteristic.

Bruce, I was thinking how the war engines of Mordor aren't particularly complex mechanically, they just have cave trolls to make them work. The wealth of their land is in biological weapons. Someone trying to get a little of that for Team Good could end up Hulked.

And I know there's Thor and his family and some really obvious places to put him, but I can never think of anything to do with Thor, he's like a puppy that throws lightning, I have no Thor feelings or ideas or anything.

I guess I have the same epic fantasy problems with Thor and his whole corner of the universe, frost giants et al, as I do with Tolkien and suchlike. Which don't work when I'm remixing it, it's too much alike.



Major problem with this idea? If I don't want ugly evil enemies with no motive except possibly wanting to eat everyone, I have to invent an enemy to be at forever war with, which tends to make everyone sound like bastards. If I stick with ugly evil enemies I won't like me much.

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So there's about as much chance of any of this being written as there is of any of the other bunnies I've had lately. Writing appears to not be happening.

But there's shiny bits in the ideas.




Also thought on: MarySue me being a bit TARDIS, with translation and teleport.
... because one does not simply walk into Mordor.
But if one is a TARDIS one can materialise there.
(which is worse than the eagles problem)
And then nobody trusts you because (a) you can go walk right up to the enemy and (b) you understand their foul language. (really, if they couldn't talk to each other, no wonder all the fightings)

Mostly I was trying to figure out a dramatic story about NOT fighting a way, and being someone who carries messages between very tense factions and tries to negotiate their way out of it sounds like fun.

Especially someone with a boyfriend on one side (who looks a lot like Tony) and a girlfriend on the other (undecided, but potentially deciding a lot about who the enemy is. I mean, if it's an X-Man, then there's all that Mutant stuff to play with, but nobody ends up looking good. I do get instant plot that way though.)
Having to arrange a political marriage to turn the tension into an alliance is a good one, especially if it's an arranged marriage between ones lovers. Which, obviously, resolves as a threesome. Of massive political consequences if discovered.

King Tony just doesn't feel right though, or even Prince. Yeah, he inherits a lot, but he invents a hell of a lot. If you're going to drop one side of that, it isn't the invention.

Getting a situation where you can make stirring speeches that basically amount to 'get out there and die! preferably not alone!' , well, that's kind of easy, we have a lot of examples.
Getting a situation where everyone's expecting that speech and then trying to change it with a speech more like 'go home and have a lot of sex, that works much better'... er, less precedent? Well, in stuff I read.


Okay, I'm bored of having ideas, I should just not write bunnies and only write short fiction that is based on the bunny of the day. I'd be epic productive in short order.
... but I tend to have epic bunnies of multi season potential, because fun worldbuilding is fun, so chucking a couple thousand words at a page is unlikely to do it much justice.