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beccaelizabethJack, Gwen, and Ianto. I have hopes of a happy.
compare:
Gwen: So even the Hub's not immune.
Jack: Shouldn't we be protected from power cuts Ianto?
Ianto: Sorry Jack, but electricity has to come from somewhere. It can't come from outer space.
Jack: Maybe we should explore that option. It would certainly lower our bills.
with 1-04 Cyberwoman:
TOSHIKO: Internal power drain.
GWEN: What's causing it?
JACK: Something big to drain that amount of power. Tosh, run a system diagnostic.
IANTO: Actually... We've been having generator problems all evening. I was down there checking earlier. Couple of bits of cabling have come loose. I thought I'd fixed it.
/Cyberwoman
Unless Gwen's internet is provided by Torchwood they're talking power loss across Cardiff, but Torchwood has its own generators.
... I don't set out to nitpick, it's just in Cyberwoman it's important because it establishes that the power drain is internal to Torchwood, a drain on specifically Torchwood's systems, which are isolated and protected, hence the problem is somewhere inside Torchwood. If there is something draining Cardiff and Torchwood then it's draining electrical systems that are isolated from each other. Something messing with specifically their generator, as well as Cardiff in general. It would be Plot.
Also, I could quote from 2-13 too, since Torchwood can feed electricity to the power station. But 'the auxilliary source' isn't specific enough to mean 'Torchwood generators'. So it could be something else.
... and I paused it to type that, and Jack says he's off to install new backup power sources. Well he shouldn't need to, there are generators. What happened to the generators?
They didn't blow up in the Dalek thing. The Hub kept working through the Dalek thing.
Okay, this is bugging me now. They're making a plot point out of something that was already a plot point in the opposite direction.
... Ianto dissing Jack's technical skills? Erm, bzuh? Jack always plays with the tech. He certainly has more training than Ianto.
Jack: Now even if the entire western world comes to a technological standstill The Hub should still be up and running.
Yes, that would be why it already had generators.
Ianto: See the dip? Then look at the spike. It precisely mirrors the energy loss. As if something is responding to the power cuts.
Jack: Or feeding off them.
Ianto: How can you feed off nothing? A negative?
*facepalm* ... no, wait, that goes right up to *headdesk*
Dear Ianto: You remember last time there were power losses in the Hub? You covered up for them, you nearly got killed, you probably remember. Your writer clearly doesn't, which is messing with my suspension of disbelief almost as badly as your weird statement right there. IF the power loss is followed by an exactly equal spike THEN something is storing up the power and spitting it back out again. Or using it. Like Lisa did. Which you would remember.
*sigh*
I'm letting it go.
I'm liking that Jack and Gwen and Ianto and Rhys are all in this.
As consequences of power cuts I understand the concern about nuclear power plants (given the events of season 2 aka just before this lot of stories) and the 'hospitals unable to function' but why is 'warheads going off' even in the same vague area?
I'm not impressed with their audio acting today. Is sad. I'm a grumpy.
Do Torchwood usually tell people they investigate aliens? I mean before they've arrested them?
GWEN: To Torchwood, nothing's classified.
You mean you have clearance for everything. It remains classified. You just don't care.
GWEN: Woah, you're like Supergran!
:-D
Jack/Ianto banter also :-)
So there's stuff about life and death, being offered a way to cheat death, old people with no friends cause they all died already, old people stuck in old people homes being frail and scared, and the joke about Jack not going to such places cause they'd lock him in / he'd meet old flames. Chewy themey stuff.
Jack: I love secret doors. Makes me feel all Famous Five.
... he's from the 51st century. Apparently Famous Five is still big then? Or that's what he's been reading while stuck on the slow path.
Jack: Only one problem: how do we get inside?
... Jack has the wrist strap for high tech security systems and a gun for lowest tech solutions. He'd be asking???
Now it's going on about how it's humiliating being old, being a child again who can't do anything for themselves, needing 24 hour care. "I just wanted to... go."
*rude gesture* at that idea.
Gwen's being all sympathetic. :-p
You know when Jack was a head in a jar? If that was Jack. He kept on living. On purpose. Because he wanted to.
Jack wishing he'd nabbed a sonic screwdriver. Ianto "There's a lot you can do with a swiss army knife." Ianto's lock picking skills? :-)
"I'll go first. I know you're scared." Probably is. Underground.
"It's always a trap. Maybe not this time." Banter is fun.
"Penny Farthing. Not particularly comfortable but great for peering over garden walls." Jack! *facepalm* ;-)
Radio that talks to you by name. Always fun.
Fitzroy. Shipping forecast. Ianto knows that.
So, the bad lady sits down to talk to Gwen because she was lonely. Same reason she listened to the radio and got trapped in the first place. That makes sense.
Why is Fitzroy going to talk to Jack and Ianto?
So, basically, this audio so far is all explain. They sit around and explain to us what the plan is. That's... it.
... I'm bored.
So she's going to crash the power system. ... okay, just assume that works. Is the story actually going to involve him feeding on a negative? Because that would be deeply stupid.
"All my life, I have wandered among the stars. I am a single entity, born of nothing, of no one" oh, so apparently he's lonely too?
"I wish to live as you do."
"Yeah, at what price?"
*sigh* no, there's really no call for that particular phrase right now. unless you want to talk in cliches for LOLs.
"I cannot arrive when my path is blocked by so much electrical interference." We believe you! Just sit there and expound! Never read the overlord list, it's not like it would make a more interesting story!
... hang on, that doesn't explain the power spikes or anything, so that's just a bit rubbish.
"Your visa application? Just been declined."
Pose, Jack! Pose in that audio way. *rooftop!*
I think the whole middle 20 minutes is the two title characters explaining their evil plan. Very bored.
Rhys to the rescue! ... that's actually a bit annoying, though "You should have deleted your browsing history" is almost cute enough to fix it.
"This planet is finally opening up to me. And it feels so good" ... and Jack made no rude comments.
Ianto speeches! ... whyyyyyy are they sitting around making speeches? Oh yeah, because there's nobody around who knows tech any more, except JACK, who is standing right there! Come up with a plan, dude!
... the plan is to run after Miss Carew. Who is quite far away. Yes, that'll help. And that's the only thing they could do.
I'm bored. All that has happened is (a) Torchwood find something wrong (b) the bad guys tell them the whole plan (c) Torchwood get righteously indignant about it.
... now something zappy happened and Miss Carew is all 'help me! Can't reach!' and Gwen is all 'grab my hand!' ... did Miss Carew get electrocuted? Did she slip and fall? It's audio, we can't tell. Well, she screamed, but there was no horrible crunchy thud, so *shrugs*. There should always be horrible crunchy thud when appropriate. That's how you know what happened.
Either way: The bad guys fail. That's the whole ending. WTF? Why did Torchwood bother turning up? The bad guys need an audience?
Now Gwen is upset and tearful (you can hear it, nice actings) because the old lady is dying. The old lady who just tried a really stupid plan to destroy the world.
"What was I doing Miss Cooper? Trying to fight death. That's a battle no-one ever wins. Oh I've been a fool."
"No you haven't, you've been wonderful. You've done amazing stuff in your life, you've lived it to the full." Gwen comforting the dying is nicely Gwen shaped. Gwen has acted in character all through, it's just a very passive and tearful version of character.
Also :-p at not fighting death. Fight! It's called 'living'.
"That should be enough to keep Fitzroy at bay, for now. He'll hopefully have been driven back to deep space."
... yes, that's totally supported by the text thus far. It's not like he'd spent years, or judging by the antiques possibly decades, chatting people up through the radio already.
Why so stupid Ianto? Because the writer didn't know what to do with you?
"I hope I don't end up like [her], rotting away in some old people's home. I want to go out with a bang." Says Gwen. Oh dear.
"Carry on like this, and it's very likely." Says Rhys. Trying to join the team this time? Erm, he said no to that? "As long as I go through it with you, I'll take on anything." Awwww, sweet!
... so, a couple of sweet lines, a Gwen who could be replaced by Any Girl Ever because she's all hunches and tearful sympathy, and... extreme boredom?
Stuff is supposed to HAPPEN in an adventure! Torchwood being there is supposed to change (a) the situation AND (b) Torchwood. Otherwise they're not the protagonists, they're the audience. We're there to watch Torchwood, not listen to Evil Plans R Us. If the plan would succeed or fail without them, which it totally would, and the team learn nothing about themselves or each other or, well, anything useful, then it's just... not a story. It's a short preach on the evils of getting old and lonely.
bored now.
let's hope it got them in good practice to do the other two plays, cause the writing on this one gave nobody much to work with and fizzled to nothing.
*sigh*
compare:
Gwen: So even the Hub's not immune.
Jack: Shouldn't we be protected from power cuts Ianto?
Ianto: Sorry Jack, but electricity has to come from somewhere. It can't come from outer space.
Jack: Maybe we should explore that option. It would certainly lower our bills.
with 1-04 Cyberwoman:
TOSHIKO: Internal power drain.
GWEN: What's causing it?
JACK: Something big to drain that amount of power. Tosh, run a system diagnostic.
IANTO: Actually... We've been having generator problems all evening. I was down there checking earlier. Couple of bits of cabling have come loose. I thought I'd fixed it.
/Cyberwoman
Unless Gwen's internet is provided by Torchwood they're talking power loss across Cardiff, but Torchwood has its own generators.
... I don't set out to nitpick, it's just in Cyberwoman it's important because it establishes that the power drain is internal to Torchwood, a drain on specifically Torchwood's systems, which are isolated and protected, hence the problem is somewhere inside Torchwood. If there is something draining Cardiff and Torchwood then it's draining electrical systems that are isolated from each other. Something messing with specifically their generator, as well as Cardiff in general. It would be Plot.
Also, I could quote from 2-13 too, since Torchwood can feed electricity to the power station. But 'the auxilliary source' isn't specific enough to mean 'Torchwood generators'. So it could be something else.
... and I paused it to type that, and Jack says he's off to install new backup power sources. Well he shouldn't need to, there are generators. What happened to the generators?
They didn't blow up in the Dalek thing. The Hub kept working through the Dalek thing.
Okay, this is bugging me now. They're making a plot point out of something that was already a plot point in the opposite direction.
... Ianto dissing Jack's technical skills? Erm, bzuh? Jack always plays with the tech. He certainly has more training than Ianto.
Jack: Now even if the entire western world comes to a technological standstill The Hub should still be up and running.
Yes, that would be why it already had generators.
Ianto: See the dip? Then look at the spike. It precisely mirrors the energy loss. As if something is responding to the power cuts.
Jack: Or feeding off them.
Ianto: How can you feed off nothing? A negative?
*facepalm* ... no, wait, that goes right up to *headdesk*
Dear Ianto: You remember last time there were power losses in the Hub? You covered up for them, you nearly got killed, you probably remember. Your writer clearly doesn't, which is messing with my suspension of disbelief almost as badly as your weird statement right there. IF the power loss is followed by an exactly equal spike THEN something is storing up the power and spitting it back out again. Or using it. Like Lisa did. Which you would remember.
*sigh*
I'm letting it go.
I'm liking that Jack and Gwen and Ianto and Rhys are all in this.
As consequences of power cuts I understand the concern about nuclear power plants (given the events of season 2 aka just before this lot of stories) and the 'hospitals unable to function' but why is 'warheads going off' even in the same vague area?
I'm not impressed with their audio acting today. Is sad. I'm a grumpy.
Do Torchwood usually tell people they investigate aliens? I mean before they've arrested them?
GWEN: To Torchwood, nothing's classified.
You mean you have clearance for everything. It remains classified. You just don't care.
GWEN: Woah, you're like Supergran!
:-D
Jack/Ianto banter also :-)
So there's stuff about life and death, being offered a way to cheat death, old people with no friends cause they all died already, old people stuck in old people homes being frail and scared, and the joke about Jack not going to such places cause they'd lock him in / he'd meet old flames. Chewy themey stuff.
Jack: I love secret doors. Makes me feel all Famous Five.
... he's from the 51st century. Apparently Famous Five is still big then? Or that's what he's been reading while stuck on the slow path.
Jack: Only one problem: how do we get inside?
... Jack has the wrist strap for high tech security systems and a gun for lowest tech solutions. He'd be asking???
Now it's going on about how it's humiliating being old, being a child again who can't do anything for themselves, needing 24 hour care. "I just wanted to... go."
*rude gesture* at that idea.
Gwen's being all sympathetic. :-p
You know when Jack was a head in a jar? If that was Jack. He kept on living. On purpose. Because he wanted to.
Jack wishing he'd nabbed a sonic screwdriver. Ianto "There's a lot you can do with a swiss army knife." Ianto's lock picking skills? :-)
"I'll go first. I know you're scared." Probably is. Underground.
"It's always a trap. Maybe not this time." Banter is fun.
"Penny Farthing. Not particularly comfortable but great for peering over garden walls." Jack! *facepalm* ;-)
Radio that talks to you by name. Always fun.
Fitzroy. Shipping forecast. Ianto knows that.
So, the bad lady sits down to talk to Gwen because she was lonely. Same reason she listened to the radio and got trapped in the first place. That makes sense.
Why is Fitzroy going to talk to Jack and Ianto?
So, basically, this audio so far is all explain. They sit around and explain to us what the plan is. That's... it.
... I'm bored.
So she's going to crash the power system. ... okay, just assume that works. Is the story actually going to involve him feeding on a negative? Because that would be deeply stupid.
"All my life, I have wandered among the stars. I am a single entity, born of nothing, of no one" oh, so apparently he's lonely too?
"I wish to live as you do."
"Yeah, at what price?"
*sigh* no, there's really no call for that particular phrase right now. unless you want to talk in cliches for LOLs.
"I cannot arrive when my path is blocked by so much electrical interference." We believe you! Just sit there and expound! Never read the overlord list, it's not like it would make a more interesting story!
... hang on, that doesn't explain the power spikes or anything, so that's just a bit rubbish.
"Your visa application? Just been declined."
Pose, Jack! Pose in that audio way. *rooftop!*
I think the whole middle 20 minutes is the two title characters explaining their evil plan. Very bored.
Rhys to the rescue! ... that's actually a bit annoying, though "You should have deleted your browsing history" is almost cute enough to fix it.
"This planet is finally opening up to me. And it feels so good" ... and Jack made no rude comments.
Ianto speeches! ... whyyyyyy are they sitting around making speeches? Oh yeah, because there's nobody around who knows tech any more, except JACK, who is standing right there! Come up with a plan, dude!
... the plan is to run after Miss Carew. Who is quite far away. Yes, that'll help. And that's the only thing they could do.
I'm bored. All that has happened is (a) Torchwood find something wrong (b) the bad guys tell them the whole plan (c) Torchwood get righteously indignant about it.
... now something zappy happened and Miss Carew is all 'help me! Can't reach!' and Gwen is all 'grab my hand!' ... did Miss Carew get electrocuted? Did she slip and fall? It's audio, we can't tell. Well, she screamed, but there was no horrible crunchy thud, so *shrugs*. There should always be horrible crunchy thud when appropriate. That's how you know what happened.
Either way: The bad guys fail. That's the whole ending. WTF? Why did Torchwood bother turning up? The bad guys need an audience?
Now Gwen is upset and tearful (you can hear it, nice actings) because the old lady is dying. The old lady who just tried a really stupid plan to destroy the world.
"What was I doing Miss Cooper? Trying to fight death. That's a battle no-one ever wins. Oh I've been a fool."
"No you haven't, you've been wonderful. You've done amazing stuff in your life, you've lived it to the full." Gwen comforting the dying is nicely Gwen shaped. Gwen has acted in character all through, it's just a very passive and tearful version of character.
Also :-p at not fighting death. Fight! It's called 'living'.
"That should be enough to keep Fitzroy at bay, for now. He'll hopefully have been driven back to deep space."
... yes, that's totally supported by the text thus far. It's not like he'd spent years, or judging by the antiques possibly decades, chatting people up through the radio already.
Why so stupid Ianto? Because the writer didn't know what to do with you?
"I hope I don't end up like [her], rotting away in some old people's home. I want to go out with a bang." Says Gwen. Oh dear.
"Carry on like this, and it's very likely." Says Rhys. Trying to join the team this time? Erm, he said no to that? "As long as I go through it with you, I'll take on anything." Awwww, sweet!
... so, a couple of sweet lines, a Gwen who could be replaced by Any Girl Ever because she's all hunches and tearful sympathy, and... extreme boredom?
Stuff is supposed to HAPPEN in an adventure! Torchwood being there is supposed to change (a) the situation AND (b) Torchwood. Otherwise they're not the protagonists, they're the audience. We're there to watch Torchwood, not listen to Evil Plans R Us. If the plan would succeed or fail without them, which it totally would, and the team learn nothing about themselves or each other or, well, anything useful, then it's just... not a story. It's a short preach on the evils of getting old and lonely.
bored now.
let's hope it got them in good practice to do the other two plays, cause the writing on this one gave nobody much to work with and fizzled to nothing.
*sigh*
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Date: 2011-07-13 07:07 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2011-07-20 03:36 am (UTC)am going to try and save the last one for later.