The good stuff is hard to find
Jul. 29th, 2011 10:07 am![[personal profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png)
Have been reading Stargate fic looking for good stuff.
Unfortunately what I considered good stuff last time I was reading a lot of Stargate fic is, erm, less to my taste now. I guess it's like how I eat dark chocolate now. Stuff changes.
... I was a fan before Daniel ascended. That's a lot of years now, isn't it?
I wasn't reading in the later seasons. Turns out, some people don't like Cam. Some people really and sincerely don't like Cam. His characterisation goes wonkier than Gwen's. Over the same spectrum, actually, for some of the same reasons - the people that think he's super brilliant making him all shiny and loved have their thing, and I'm happy for them, but that's not my thing; the people who think he's wrecking Daniel's marriage zomg kind of scare me. I mean even the nice versions of that paint him as so many kinds of incompetent it's not even funny. And brainless. There's a lot of brainless. And the kind of horny that goes with brainless incompetence. And then the story is a really weird shape, for much the same reasons that Mary Sues screw over everything, the one character warps all the reactions.
I haven't watched Cam much, I'm not sure I've re-watched later seasons even, but he sticks in my mind as the guy who just does not know how to stay down. Got to like that. Is he not that guy outside of my head?
I keep looking for Jack/Daniel fic. I'm on AO3 because there looks like there's a ton of all kinds of everything there, but that's kind of the problem, there's a ton. Is there a way to search with a NOT in it? There's xovers and AUs everywhere. Also, if I see another quantum mirror fic, it will be too soon. It's a very shiny toy, yes, but I can't find anything else.
I don't even know why I'm on a Stargate kick. I just seem to have started reading. A lot.
I have also read quite a lot of Stargate Atlantis John/Rodney. I think I watched one season of Stargate Atlantis once. Yet I keep going back to John/Rodney. I think there's something about socially awkward scientist meets kick arse secret mathematician and fightscrime wraith that seems to work for me. Something about them managing to get together despite having the collective emotional IQ of a donut and the social skills of a sleepy cat or something. Love conquers all, alright. The trouble is I suspect the Atlantis I'm reading about is not the one I'd find if I actually watched the show. I suspect I'd find the show quite disappointing. That would be sad.
I like the idea of Atlantis being run as a colony doing diplomacy and having its own little society develop. I'm 99% sure the TV didn't go there.
Did any TV show do that yet? That didn't totally suck?
I think a main reason I can't find fanfic exactly like I want to read (unless I go re-read Cesperanza again again again) is I can't figure out to myself what it is I'm looking for. Something about yearning, knowing, and getting, in roughly that order. With adventures. Or maybe something where someone plays with all the shiny toys of the Stargate 'verse. Other than the quantum mirror. Seriously. It is not the only toy they ever found. There are alien civilisations out there, fascinating possibilities inherent in genetic memory, stories about learning to get along with your symbiote. Can I find them? Can I heck. There's just a bazillionty stories where a couple of different AUs get thrown at each other to show each other where they went wrong. Also to have sex in new combinations. I can see why fandom has fun with this - every fic can cross over with every other fic 'verse and the canon characters can climb right in with them and it's all a party. I even have an endless fixit 'verse of my own in my head. It's embarrassing. It involves being Daniel's secret symbiote with gender issues. My issues have issues, it's a thing. But I don't go writing it down.
(There are also good mirror stories. I'm not knocking any particular mirror story. I'd just like to find a little more variety.)
Okay, bored now, haven't slept, cranky, shall go away again.
Unfortunately what I considered good stuff last time I was reading a lot of Stargate fic is, erm, less to my taste now. I guess it's like how I eat dark chocolate now. Stuff changes.
... I was a fan before Daniel ascended. That's a lot of years now, isn't it?
I wasn't reading in the later seasons. Turns out, some people don't like Cam. Some people really and sincerely don't like Cam. His characterisation goes wonkier than Gwen's. Over the same spectrum, actually, for some of the same reasons - the people that think he's super brilliant making him all shiny and loved have their thing, and I'm happy for them, but that's not my thing; the people who think he's wrecking Daniel's marriage zomg kind of scare me. I mean even the nice versions of that paint him as so many kinds of incompetent it's not even funny. And brainless. There's a lot of brainless. And the kind of horny that goes with brainless incompetence. And then the story is a really weird shape, for much the same reasons that Mary Sues screw over everything, the one character warps all the reactions.
I haven't watched Cam much, I'm not sure I've re-watched later seasons even, but he sticks in my mind as the guy who just does not know how to stay down. Got to like that. Is he not that guy outside of my head?
I keep looking for Jack/Daniel fic. I'm on AO3 because there looks like there's a ton of all kinds of everything there, but that's kind of the problem, there's a ton. Is there a way to search with a NOT in it? There's xovers and AUs everywhere. Also, if I see another quantum mirror fic, it will be too soon. It's a very shiny toy, yes, but I can't find anything else.
I don't even know why I'm on a Stargate kick. I just seem to have started reading. A lot.
I have also read quite a lot of Stargate Atlantis John/Rodney. I think I watched one season of Stargate Atlantis once. Yet I keep going back to John/Rodney. I think there's something about socially awkward scientist meets kick arse secret mathematician and fights
I like the idea of Atlantis being run as a colony doing diplomacy and having its own little society develop. I'm 99% sure the TV didn't go there.
Did any TV show do that yet? That didn't totally suck?
I think a main reason I can't find fanfic exactly like I want to read (unless I go re-read Cesperanza again again again) is I can't figure out to myself what it is I'm looking for. Something about yearning, knowing, and getting, in roughly that order. With adventures. Or maybe something where someone plays with all the shiny toys of the Stargate 'verse. Other than the quantum mirror. Seriously. It is not the only toy they ever found. There are alien civilisations out there, fascinating possibilities inherent in genetic memory, stories about learning to get along with your symbiote. Can I find them? Can I heck. There's just a bazillionty stories where a couple of different AUs get thrown at each other to show each other where they went wrong. Also to have sex in new combinations. I can see why fandom has fun with this - every fic can cross over with every other fic 'verse and the canon characters can climb right in with them and it's all a party. I even have an endless fixit 'verse of my own in my head. It's embarrassing. It involves being Daniel's secret symbiote with gender issues. My issues have issues, it's a thing. But I don't go writing it down.
(There are also good mirror stories. I'm not knocking any particular mirror story. I'd just like to find a little more variety.)
Okay, bored now, haven't slept, cranky, shall go away again.
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Date: 2011-07-29 12:35 pm (UTC)*coughs politely*
I apologize for the self-rec, but I think I may possibly have written one of those stories you're looking for:
walked right out of the machinery (SG-1, gen, 73K words, PG-13/R, some violence, character death -- let me know if there's anything in particular you need/want warning for and I'm happy to answer)
excellent
Date: 2011-07-30 07:24 am (UTC)yes! that's exactly what I was looking for! and long and plotty and good.
:-)
Re: excellent
Date: 2011-07-30 07:53 am (UTC)