still reading Avengers fic
Aug. 5th, 2012 10:29 pm![[personal profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png){kind=small}
beccaelizabetham reading Avengers & Thor movie fic that makes Hawkeye 25.
Jeremy Renner would probably love them for it, but that's a tough sell.
Ages, or even relative ages, of movie Avengers are kind of difficult to figure. Especially if movie time isn't passing at the same rate as actor time. Like having 6 months between Iron Man and Iron Man 2.
They might not very precisely align to actor ages but I feel more than a decade off is pushing it.
I have been thinking that superhero stories, as seen in comics, are not really movies. Screenwriting book says a movie is the most important day in a character's life; a tv show episode is what happens to them every day. Movies are all origin stories because that's the big day, for a superhero. They have a few more defining moments maybe, but those are the epic comics arcs you hear about decades later. Most of the time, comics are just another day at the superhero office. TV is more like comics. But more people like watching the movies than reading the comics.
I have depressed suspicions this is about wanting the easy answer, the big win instead of the daily grind.
Is it harder to get invested when someone beats the bad guy and you know next week there'll be another one just like it?
But I watch a lot of TV, so, I like it when next week there is more problem. There is also more solution.
I kind of miss gen. It probably exists but with Ao3's current search options I cannot poke it until the gen falls out.
Fanfic goes and shows all the parts, all the relationship stuff, the work/life balance blown up huge with these earth shattering conflicts. Which is how I remember comics too, only usually they had less sex. Mostly. But if there's stuff to work out about how to fit lives together, it does not stop needing work because the kissing has started. Fanfic is good at knowing that. Negotiation and discussion and stopping when someone hits a bad and making sure everyone gets what they need. Lots of good stuff.
Sometimes it seems like all that good stuff is only being applied to sex though.
When there is a ton of canon the hero stuff is what we already seen, but when there is only movies in this precise 'verse I'd like to see how these exact people work things out and fit together.
Like, how come Thor isn't in charge? He's a Prince and stuff, why isn't he having a shouty argument about how everyone should be supporting him and doing like he says because age and experience and awesome degrees of arse kicking?
He'd be terrible at it, the attack on the ice giants in his film kind of shows that, he's just diving in hitting stuff while his friends get demolished and he's not so much leading as charging in first.
But does he actually know that?
I know there's bazillions of years of comics canon that probably sort out how all these people relate to each other, but they're different versions of people, they're not these ages, experiences, backgrounds, relationships, not precisely.
Also, I don't know any of it.
And when I try to read about it, I just bounce off the jarring differences.
I'm probably going to go read not-fanfic. Usually that's what I end up doing when I get grumpy about too much sex and not enough plot.
There's some awesome plots too though.
Jeremy Renner would probably love them for it, but that's a tough sell.
Ages, or even relative ages, of movie Avengers are kind of difficult to figure. Especially if movie time isn't passing at the same rate as actor time. Like having 6 months between Iron Man and Iron Man 2.
They might not very precisely align to actor ages but I feel more than a decade off is pushing it.
I have been thinking that superhero stories, as seen in comics, are not really movies. Screenwriting book says a movie is the most important day in a character's life; a tv show episode is what happens to them every day. Movies are all origin stories because that's the big day, for a superhero. They have a few more defining moments maybe, but those are the epic comics arcs you hear about decades later. Most of the time, comics are just another day at the superhero office. TV is more like comics. But more people like watching the movies than reading the comics.
I have depressed suspicions this is about wanting the easy answer, the big win instead of the daily grind.
Is it harder to get invested when someone beats the bad guy and you know next week there'll be another one just like it?
But I watch a lot of TV, so, I like it when next week there is more problem. There is also more solution.
I kind of miss gen. It probably exists but with Ao3's current search options I cannot poke it until the gen falls out.
Fanfic goes and shows all the parts, all the relationship stuff, the work/life balance blown up huge with these earth shattering conflicts. Which is how I remember comics too, only usually they had less sex. Mostly. But if there's stuff to work out about how to fit lives together, it does not stop needing work because the kissing has started. Fanfic is good at knowing that. Negotiation and discussion and stopping when someone hits a bad and making sure everyone gets what they need. Lots of good stuff.
Sometimes it seems like all that good stuff is only being applied to sex though.
When there is a ton of canon the hero stuff is what we already seen, but when there is only movies in this precise 'verse I'd like to see how these exact people work things out and fit together.
Like, how come Thor isn't in charge? He's a Prince and stuff, why isn't he having a shouty argument about how everyone should be supporting him and doing like he says because age and experience and awesome degrees of arse kicking?
He'd be terrible at it, the attack on the ice giants in his film kind of shows that, he's just diving in hitting stuff while his friends get demolished and he's not so much leading as charging in first.
But does he actually know that?
I know there's bazillions of years of comics canon that probably sort out how all these people relate to each other, but they're different versions of people, they're not these ages, experiences, backgrounds, relationships, not precisely.
Also, I don't know any of it.
And when I try to read about it, I just bounce off the jarring differences.
I'm probably going to go read not-fanfic. Usually that's what I end up doing when I get grumpy about too much sex and not enough plot.
There's some awesome plots too though.
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Date: 2012-08-06 05:04 am (UTC)(*being the favourite son doesn't mean he enjoyed good parenting. He so very clearly didn't. People seem to forget that Odin was a shit parent to them both, in different ways.)