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Aug. 11th, 2005 07:57 pm![[personal profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png){kind=small}
beccaelizabethWatched Point Break
I still really love this film
don't so much like the DVD. No extras, no subtitles. I can live without extras but subtitles are pretty much why I buy DVDs, so that was a pain.
Have realised I like Point Break for much the same reason I like Lost Boys - its about falling for the wrong guy. Main difference is the lack of that layer of metaphor. But surfing becomes a different sort of metaphor. Real world but different world at the same time.
This film shaped my teenage mind to a freaky extent. One of the films I imprinted on. Along with Addams Family :)
It is also one of the ones that got me interested in how films are put together. The writer aspects, yes, but all the other stuff too. Camera and framing and lighting and all that. There are a lot of moments I can see the craft of it, not the bad way, the good way, from having seen the story so many times I just get to appreciate how it is made.
But definitely my favourite aspect is that central story, falling for the wrong guy.
And this time through I also noticed that Tyler is only incidentally a girl. I mean we never see her breasts (even though we see them on an incidental character), when we see her in bed we see her back, when we see her with her shirt open it is only open enough her chest looks flat. Her look, her attitude, nothing about that character would change if she happened to be a guy. Which is probably an extra layer of why I like this film. Its like its secretly slash. Only with a girl.
I didn't say that very well. Or possibly is just a dumb thing to say.
The fall-for-wrong-guy story is why I keep going back to write Ripper/Ethan in the 70s, despite being fed up of teenagers (or idiots acting like them). Got that whole seduction to the dark side thing going. But in my head the thing with Ethan was only incidentally dark side. Like, Ethan wasn't the wrong guy, he was Star or Tyler, the one who is involved but not the principal problem. Which is also not right. I mean Ethan is bad magic guy, no doubt. Just... I don't know. Maybe because story logic says whoever is at fault has to die, therefore it has to be Randall that was the bad guy because he ended up dead. Hmmmm, doesn't really work right.
Star, Tyler, they bring the guy in to this other world, new and transforming. Tyler's world, surfing, that has a spiritual side. It transforms him in a positive way. Connects him to the natural world and to himself. And that should be what magic does. For Ripper and Ethan, or in the real world, magic is spiritual and transforming but not the source of the problem.
Ethan is all about transformation, so that part comes from him. And he is spiritual, he is the guy who worships, who gives the night to Janus rather than taking it for himself. So that part fits.
Just, then there's Eyghon. Ripper and Ethan found Eyghon together. And Ethan ends up turning up playing bad guy. So something went very wrong.
Did Ethan fall for the wrong guy? If I told the story from his point of view, would Ripper be Bodhi or David?
Some days I want to make Ethan too shiny, clean him up too fast. But nobody gets born the bad guy. So there is always the question, how did Ethan get to be that way? And if Ripper is the answer... layers of interesting.
I still really love this film
don't so much like the DVD. No extras, no subtitles. I can live without extras but subtitles are pretty much why I buy DVDs, so that was a pain.
Have realised I like Point Break for much the same reason I like Lost Boys - its about falling for the wrong guy. Main difference is the lack of that layer of metaphor. But surfing becomes a different sort of metaphor. Real world but different world at the same time.
This film shaped my teenage mind to a freaky extent. One of the films I imprinted on. Along with Addams Family :)
It is also one of the ones that got me interested in how films are put together. The writer aspects, yes, but all the other stuff too. Camera and framing and lighting and all that. There are a lot of moments I can see the craft of it, not the bad way, the good way, from having seen the story so many times I just get to appreciate how it is made.
But definitely my favourite aspect is that central story, falling for the wrong guy.
And this time through I also noticed that Tyler is only incidentally a girl. I mean we never see her breasts (even though we see them on an incidental character), when we see her in bed we see her back, when we see her with her shirt open it is only open enough her chest looks flat. Her look, her attitude, nothing about that character would change if she happened to be a guy. Which is probably an extra layer of why I like this film. Its like its secretly slash. Only with a girl.
I didn't say that very well. Or possibly is just a dumb thing to say.
The fall-for-wrong-guy story is why I keep going back to write Ripper/Ethan in the 70s, despite being fed up of teenagers (or idiots acting like them). Got that whole seduction to the dark side thing going. But in my head the thing with Ethan was only incidentally dark side. Like, Ethan wasn't the wrong guy, he was Star or Tyler, the one who is involved but not the principal problem. Which is also not right. I mean Ethan is bad magic guy, no doubt. Just... I don't know. Maybe because story logic says whoever is at fault has to die, therefore it has to be Randall that was the bad guy because he ended up dead. Hmmmm, doesn't really work right.
Star, Tyler, they bring the guy in to this other world, new and transforming. Tyler's world, surfing, that has a spiritual side. It transforms him in a positive way. Connects him to the natural world and to himself. And that should be what magic does. For Ripper and Ethan, or in the real world, magic is spiritual and transforming but not the source of the problem.
Ethan is all about transformation, so that part comes from him. And he is spiritual, he is the guy who worships, who gives the night to Janus rather than taking it for himself. So that part fits.
Just, then there's Eyghon. Ripper and Ethan found Eyghon together. And Ethan ends up turning up playing bad guy. So something went very wrong.
Did Ethan fall for the wrong guy? If I told the story from his point of view, would Ripper be Bodhi or David?
Some days I want to make Ethan too shiny, clean him up too fast. But nobody gets born the bad guy. So there is always the question, how did Ethan get to be that way? And if Ripper is the answer... layers of interesting.