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Jun. 17th, 2017 08:10 pm![[personal profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png){kind=small}
beccaelizabethwent for a lie down at 1745, woke up at 1945 realising Doctor Who had just happened.
But the iplayer works so well I'm not worried. And the iplayer is my first thought over even the recorder box, which I know just did.
Dreamt something complex with a murder mystery that's hard to investigate because cloning. Starts with twin brothers who both want it all, and one of them sends an assasin and his niece stops him but burns her arm bad on an iron in the process, so the other twin sends someone to kill him back but doesn't notice the daughter goes out and comes back with absolutely no burn. And it might have been even more complex than that, because who knows who started the assassins thing, if it's only from an outside observer point of view?
And then there was a bit which depended on the one black man in the dream fully believing none of the white people could tell black people apart, and just kind of rolling with any mistaken identity stuff, so it only emerged there'd always been two of them when one turned up to work after the other had just been killed. Only he didn't believe they looked that identical. And honestly that bit would have worked better if they hadn't both been Geordi LaForge in different eras of clothing. I mean, it combines racism and ablism in an all look alike to them pie, so it's kind of worky, but, not many people are wearing a hair accessory in the first place, so surely he'd have noticed the implausibility of misrecognition before going straight to resignation?
... it was a dream, I know, the logic didn't really follow.
But it's such a beautiful mess of a setup. Maybe there's an original being copied, like Amy Pond and the cornflour people. Maybe there's just a lot of twins who don't actually share memories. But funnest is to mix and match, so you've got remote workers who know it (assassins are the obvious), remote workers who don't know it, print out people who get their memories updated constantly, print out people with a set point, mixing people who remember going in for printing and those that don't, and then regular no science required twins... and throw in at least one murder, and at least one investigator who was two investigators a minute ago, and a point of view getting increasingly paranoid about her own nature.
... and actually the 'just one last job' setup in ... I think it was F&SF? Did a lot of that. But it was doing a more posthuman shells don't matter thing, and this was more about family, racism, and ablism, so shells matter immensely and define who you get to be... and then maybe might be malleable.
... also, googling for replacement people led to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capgras_delusion and that's just ... okay, actual paranoia. not nice.
I think there's useable parts to the idea. But it would have to be set when the technologies were new, or there would be expectations and countermeasures already, and then it has so many different ways to copy a person.
The twins at the start of the murder mystery though, if they're regular biological twins but this cloning tech gets common enough everyone starts trying to figure which one is 'real' that could kick everything off, that could be a last straw.
I don't know though, plows straight in to a lot of 'tread carefully' stuff which I'm unlikely to be careful with. And there's enough evil twin stories as is.
I mean it'd be less creepy to make the central rivalry nothing to do with them being twins, but as soon as they're twins then EVERYthing is because twins, even if any family business can go exactly that pear shaped.
A remote worker partnered with a replicant investigating natural twins is a starting point to demonstrate social prejudice about origins, even before you add the assumed racism and ablism.
But I think it requires someone more socially adept than me to go into that kind of ground without just echoing the nasty, instead of doing something worthwhile with it.
I mean there has to be some kind of conclusion based on good is a thing you do not a thing you are, and the difference between honor and reputation especially when reputation is collective. But... tricky.
But the iplayer works so well I'm not worried. And the iplayer is my first thought over even the recorder box, which I know just did.
Dreamt something complex with a murder mystery that's hard to investigate because cloning. Starts with twin brothers who both want it all, and one of them sends an assasin and his niece stops him but burns her arm bad on an iron in the process, so the other twin sends someone to kill him back but doesn't notice the daughter goes out and comes back with absolutely no burn. And it might have been even more complex than that, because who knows who started the assassins thing, if it's only from an outside observer point of view?
And then there was a bit which depended on the one black man in the dream fully believing none of the white people could tell black people apart, and just kind of rolling with any mistaken identity stuff, so it only emerged there'd always been two of them when one turned up to work after the other had just been killed. Only he didn't believe they looked that identical. And honestly that bit would have worked better if they hadn't both been Geordi LaForge in different eras of clothing. I mean, it combines racism and ablism in an all look alike to them pie, so it's kind of worky, but, not many people are wearing a hair accessory in the first place, so surely he'd have noticed the implausibility of misrecognition before going straight to resignation?
... it was a dream, I know, the logic didn't really follow.
But it's such a beautiful mess of a setup. Maybe there's an original being copied, like Amy Pond and the cornflour people. Maybe there's just a lot of twins who don't actually share memories. But funnest is to mix and match, so you've got remote workers who know it (assassins are the obvious), remote workers who don't know it, print out people who get their memories updated constantly, print out people with a set point, mixing people who remember going in for printing and those that don't, and then regular no science required twins... and throw in at least one murder, and at least one investigator who was two investigators a minute ago, and a point of view getting increasingly paranoid about her own nature.
... and actually the 'just one last job' setup in ... I think it was F&SF? Did a lot of that. But it was doing a more posthuman shells don't matter thing, and this was more about family, racism, and ablism, so shells matter immensely and define who you get to be... and then maybe might be malleable.
... also, googling for replacement people led to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capgras_delusion and that's just ... okay, actual paranoia. not nice.
I think there's useable parts to the idea. But it would have to be set when the technologies were new, or there would be expectations and countermeasures already, and then it has so many different ways to copy a person.
The twins at the start of the murder mystery though, if they're regular biological twins but this cloning tech gets common enough everyone starts trying to figure which one is 'real' that could kick everything off, that could be a last straw.
I don't know though, plows straight in to a lot of 'tread carefully' stuff which I'm unlikely to be careful with. And there's enough evil twin stories as is.
I mean it'd be less creepy to make the central rivalry nothing to do with them being twins, but as soon as they're twins then EVERYthing is because twins, even if any family business can go exactly that pear shaped.
A remote worker partnered with a replicant investigating natural twins is a starting point to demonstrate social prejudice about origins, even before you add the assumed racism and ablism.
But I think it requires someone more socially adept than me to go into that kind of ground without just echoing the nasty, instead of doing something worthwhile with it.
I mean there has to be some kind of conclusion based on good is a thing you do not a thing you are, and the difference between honor and reputation especially when reputation is collective. But... tricky.