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Jan. 30th, 2006 03:51 pm![[personal profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png){kind=small}
beccaelizabethalso, there's a thing where they argue things as gendered but I think that only works if you watch only one episode at a time. Like, werewolf as bad-man. Theres a lady wolf! Two, actually. Two good wolfs, one each gender, one bad one, who is female, back when wolf-bad-man seemed to be the story. I mean if you call aggression masculine always then, yeah, okay, but the story doesn't seem to do that. Like with sexual violence in that Beauty and the Beasts ep, theres three bad men, yes, but there's also Faith and Buffy, both of whom beat up on their boyfriends in other eps. Is this not relevant?
also, have noticed me not noticing a thing.
have previously noticed how some films make sure things aren't seen as a race issue by having different races on both sides. noticed it watching Die Hard, theres a bad guy who is black, and also a good guy, and the bad guy is stopped by the good guy, so its obviously Not About Race.
There is a line about Principal Wood in this Sex and the slayer book
he opposes Spike, the dead white European male, and allies with Giles, the only other 'man' in the group and someone also marked by difference.
Giles also alive white European male, so it seemed odd that they put all that d-w-e-m bit in about Spike because it makes it sound like its about race with Spike but not Giles. Whereas of course since the only difference is Spike is dead (and killed his mother) then it Isn't About Race.
then I noticed I hadn't noticed that before, and felt vaguely embarrassed. Because the difference is that there is making sure theres white guys on both sides.
of course its possible I noticed and forgot again. then I could be less *facepalm*
ANYways, is one reason from outside the story to have Giles on the side of 'kill Spike'
along with him being Patriarchy for the year
It says also about Wood that Wood is from a matriarchal line; he remembers a strong mother and no father
but he was real little when said strong mother died, and then he grew up with only a father, right? Her Watcher, who was a Mr.
Bernard Crowley. Took me in when I was a young kid, trained me.
So what *we* see is a matriarchal strong mother, but what he was raised by is patriarchal strong father, and as far as we know, single father.
I see a fairly strong Watcher Patriarchy thread in how Robin does things, especially his initial manipulation of Buffy. But in the section on Robin as New Man that isn't brought up at all.
it says furthermore, because he is Other, Wood is not implicated in white male supremacy: he accepts Buffy as an equal (though he is still her boss) and later a 'general' and supports Faith as a leader.
Which, yes, okay, but he supports them while they're doing what he wants them to. He manipulates Buffy, effectively lies to her to get her into school and doing that counsellor job. He goes behind her back about Spike and tries to protect her from herself about him. He might not direcly push, but he doesn't act like she is in charge, or completely able to be the boss of herself.
I think.
Again, more looking up needed.
Also, Robin was little kid in the 70s. When Giles was off being all rebellious. Giles is old enough to be his father.
*weird*
also, have noticed me not noticing a thing.
have previously noticed how some films make sure things aren't seen as a race issue by having different races on both sides. noticed it watching Die Hard, theres a bad guy who is black, and also a good guy, and the bad guy is stopped by the good guy, so its obviously Not About Race.
There is a line about Principal Wood in this Sex and the slayer book
he opposes Spike, the dead white European male, and allies with Giles, the only other 'man' in the group and someone also marked by difference.
Giles also alive white European male, so it seemed odd that they put all that d-w-e-m bit in about Spike because it makes it sound like its about race with Spike but not Giles. Whereas of course since the only difference is Spike is dead (and killed his mother) then it Isn't About Race.
then I noticed I hadn't noticed that before, and felt vaguely embarrassed. Because the difference is that there is making sure theres white guys on both sides.
of course its possible I noticed and forgot again. then I could be less *facepalm*
ANYways, is one reason from outside the story to have Giles on the side of 'kill Spike'
along with him being Patriarchy for the year
It says also about Wood that Wood is from a matriarchal line; he remembers a strong mother and no father
but he was real little when said strong mother died, and then he grew up with only a father, right? Her Watcher, who was a Mr.
Bernard Crowley. Took me in when I was a young kid, trained me.
So what *we* see is a matriarchal strong mother, but what he was raised by is patriarchal strong father, and as far as we know, single father.
I see a fairly strong Watcher Patriarchy thread in how Robin does things, especially his initial manipulation of Buffy. But in the section on Robin as New Man that isn't brought up at all.
it says furthermore, because he is Other, Wood is not implicated in white male supremacy: he accepts Buffy as an equal (though he is still her boss) and later a 'general' and supports Faith as a leader.
Which, yes, okay, but he supports them while they're doing what he wants them to. He manipulates Buffy, effectively lies to her to get her into school and doing that counsellor job. He goes behind her back about Spike and tries to protect her from herself about him. He might not direcly push, but he doesn't act like she is in charge, or completely able to be the boss of herself.
I think.
Again, more looking up needed.
Also, Robin was little kid in the 70s. When Giles was off being all rebellious. Giles is old enough to be his father.
*weird*