Suggestions for improving Torchwood
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beccaelizabeth... morally as an organisation or aesthetically as a show?
either way:
Have them maybe be the good guys sometimes? A little? It could be fun.
Characterisation = yaay. Gaps are all very well but we rather like it when they're filled in.
Jack/Ianto=yaay, and not just because it's canon slash... okay, I'd put up with a hell of a lot just for that, but because it's potentially interesting I'll actually like it too.
We've seen everyone fall apart. I asked for them to fall together, and we got that too. So now let me be really really specific: Rise together. Teamwork and... I don't know, but something that doesn't leave them all quivering wrecks of danger-to-themselves-and-others.
I realise 'love conquers all' could be considered a bit shallow, but there could be isolated pockets of 'love does in fact make the world seem quite a bit better' in amongst the mess.
It's nice that characters have flaws. If they only have flaws it gets a bit boring.
Shows I have stopped watching: BSG, because you know the worst thing will always happen and it got boring. SGA, because you know they'll always screw up and quite often die and that got a bit boring too.
Things that Torchwood is in danger of having happen?
... yeah.
They didn't screw up Jack/Ianto the way I was worried they would.
As soon as there starts being more canon there sadly starts being more opportunities to do it.
So.
No backstabbing plz.
They don't have to be happy, but I'd rather like to avoid evil-insane-deadness.
... actually, sod it, they should be happy. I could write them happy-yet-conflicted. There's grand themes to mine with the conflict between divergent versions of duty. There's all sorts of nifty to get into with the differences in age, power, experience, expectation, culture, and, well, everything. It could take many, many seasons. And through it all they can be having raging arguments, occasional pointing guns at each other, disobedience, and still at the end of the day really good sex. Just... they don't go to bed angry, they can do whatever they like all day, and it still counts as adult every which way.
What I'm saying is writers who are better than me could write a relationship that is complicated, doomed-by-mortality, on opposite sides of major issues and yet with a core of love that gets them through it in an entirely unsaccharine way. Seriously. I'm quite sure.
I've got about 30 sequential plot bunnies for RFJ, which is Giles/Ethan and has massive philosophical differences and incidental being deadness in the way. 30 would be another three seasons on Torchwood. That's halfway to forever in TV time.
... I'm having visions of Torchwood running as long as Doctor Who.
... oooooh, happy visions.
... happy, porn filled visions ...
to run that long they'd probably have to swap out characters, like DW, or SG1 for that matter.
Who could be usefully added to the team?
I'm not at the point I'd want to drop anyone, but adding someone new could be a fun game.
... actually the first one that springs to mind is my MarySue-me. Because working the desk at the world's least popular tourist information office might be within my skills. You know, if I could use my talking computer for the speaking parts.
... oh bugger, I need to order my talking computer. Right, enough of this...
either way:
Have them maybe be the good guys sometimes? A little? It could be fun.
Characterisation = yaay. Gaps are all very well but we rather like it when they're filled in.
Jack/Ianto=yaay, and not just because it's canon slash... okay, I'd put up with a hell of a lot just for that, but because it's potentially interesting I'll actually like it too.
We've seen everyone fall apart. I asked for them to fall together, and we got that too. So now let me be really really specific: Rise together. Teamwork and... I don't know, but something that doesn't leave them all quivering wrecks of danger-to-themselves-and-others.
I realise 'love conquers all' could be considered a bit shallow, but there could be isolated pockets of 'love does in fact make the world seem quite a bit better' in amongst the mess.
It's nice that characters have flaws. If they only have flaws it gets a bit boring.
Shows I have stopped watching: BSG, because you know the worst thing will always happen and it got boring. SGA, because you know they'll always screw up and quite often die and that got a bit boring too.
Things that Torchwood is in danger of having happen?
... yeah.
They didn't screw up Jack/Ianto the way I was worried they would.
As soon as there starts being more canon there sadly starts being more opportunities to do it.
So.
No backstabbing plz.
They don't have to be happy, but I'd rather like to avoid evil-insane-deadness.
... actually, sod it, they should be happy. I could write them happy-yet-conflicted. There's grand themes to mine with the conflict between divergent versions of duty. There's all sorts of nifty to get into with the differences in age, power, experience, expectation, culture, and, well, everything. It could take many, many seasons. And through it all they can be having raging arguments, occasional pointing guns at each other, disobedience, and still at the end of the day really good sex. Just... they don't go to bed angry, they can do whatever they like all day, and it still counts as adult every which way.
What I'm saying is writers who are better than me could write a relationship that is complicated, doomed-by-mortality, on opposite sides of major issues and yet with a core of love that gets them through it in an entirely unsaccharine way. Seriously. I'm quite sure.
I've got about 30 sequential plot bunnies for RFJ, which is Giles/Ethan and has massive philosophical differences and incidental being deadness in the way. 30 would be another three seasons on Torchwood. That's halfway to forever in TV time.
... I'm having visions of Torchwood running as long as Doctor Who.
... oooooh, happy visions.
... happy, porn filled visions ...
to run that long they'd probably have to swap out characters, like DW, or SG1 for that matter.
Who could be usefully added to the team?
I'm not at the point I'd want to drop anyone, but adding someone new could be a fun game.
... actually the first one that springs to mind is my MarySue-me. Because working the desk at the world's least popular tourist information office might be within my skills. You know, if I could use my talking computer for the speaking parts.
... oh bugger, I need to order my talking computer. Right, enough of this...