enough coffee already
Apr. 13th, 2007 12:17 pm![[personal profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png){kind=small}
beccaelizabethHave had a thought about Ianto and coffee.
Ianto makes good coffee. This is a distinctive feature of Ianto. So far, so good.
But if it is *the* distinctive feature... the only one who sees him that way is Owen. I mean Jack likes his coffee, but if that's the only thing of his he likes then that whole relationship gets a whole lot less than romantic.
So if there's a fic where the only one of his distinctive features we get to see is "Ianto makes coffee" then it feels more like Owen's pov than Ianto's, whoever is saying "I".
And Owen is a twat who doesn't like or value Ianto, so I don't really want to see Ianto through Owen's eyes.
(Except for that one fic where Ianto went to tidy up a mountain, because that managed to be Owen and good. Which is difficult.)
Point being... Okay, sometimes it feels like a fic is keeping the feature that the writer can empathise with most. So, coffee. But if 'teaboy' is an insult then only showing the coffee feels insulting. I quite like Ianto's other features, like his focus and quirky sense of humour and research skillz and the way he doesn't quit. Also the way he grins right before he nuts someone. That's just fun. Granted, more difficult to include in a PWP, but...
well there was a thing on one of the torchwood communities about how Ianto has a job with lots of stereotypically feminine features: Does food and cleaning and reports and is vastly underappreciated. Writing him as just coffee? Emphasises the 'underappreciated' part. And where's the fun in that? And, yeah, it's fun when Jack sees him and values him, that's the good stuff. But if he values him for coffee he's not really seeing him, so might as well be dating the dude at the counter in the coffee place.
... that's more words than I meant to spend on it because I don't think I said quite what I meant any one time.
But basically that's why I've had enough of coffee.
Ianto makes good coffee. This is a distinctive feature of Ianto. So far, so good.
But if it is *the* distinctive feature... the only one who sees him that way is Owen. I mean Jack likes his coffee, but if that's the only thing of his he likes then that whole relationship gets a whole lot less than romantic.
So if there's a fic where the only one of his distinctive features we get to see is "Ianto makes coffee" then it feels more like Owen's pov than Ianto's, whoever is saying "I".
And Owen is a twat who doesn't like or value Ianto, so I don't really want to see Ianto through Owen's eyes.
(Except for that one fic where Ianto went to tidy up a mountain, because that managed to be Owen and good. Which is difficult.)
Point being... Okay, sometimes it feels like a fic is keeping the feature that the writer can empathise with most. So, coffee. But if 'teaboy' is an insult then only showing the coffee feels insulting. I quite like Ianto's other features, like his focus and quirky sense of humour and research skillz and the way he doesn't quit. Also the way he grins right before he nuts someone. That's just fun. Granted, more difficult to include in a PWP, but...
well there was a thing on one of the torchwood communities about how Ianto has a job with lots of stereotypically feminine features: Does food and cleaning and reports and is vastly underappreciated. Writing him as just coffee? Emphasises the 'underappreciated' part. And where's the fun in that? And, yeah, it's fun when Jack sees him and values him, that's the good stuff. But if he values him for coffee he's not really seeing him, so might as well be dating the dude at the counter in the coffee place.
... that's more words than I meant to spend on it because I don't think I said quite what I meant any one time.
But basically that's why I've had enough of coffee.