Torchwood: Kiss Kiss Bang Bang
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beccaelizabethThat was *fun*.
A lot more with the funny than last year, yesno?
Most of the minutes they showed as previews were from the first 10 minutes. Except for the bit with him handcuffed to Gwen. I think I'd rather have not seen that. It would have been more fun if there was any doubt which side he's on.
JB said he's the Master to his Doctor, and there's a whole happy psychopath thing going on there, so I guess I can see that. He's the guy who has all the skills and none of the morals. It's fun. But only to watch.
There's the whole kiss you / kill you thing that he doesn't seem to have quite figured out. The line about rehab - somehow it plays totally funny, but it's totally not if you think about it. He's a wreck. A very pretty wreck, but he's not having fun. He's got no reason to give the 'come to the dark side' speech if he don't mean it, seeing as it was so easy to push him off the roof. And then he didn't seem quite sure how to react to that. Is interesting.
2 weeks / 5 years in a time loop? Now if that was like on Stargate or Groundhog Day where they could do whatever they liked and it reset all the time... I can see a way to connect the loop to the behaviour. Which would be interesting. Or, of course, the Time Agency might just recruit nutjobs.
Only 7 Time Agents left? Hmmm... consider the data source. Also if they're all time travellers there's no good reason that that means anything from here. I mean they could be sending back hundreds of agents in their prime and then have 7 left last time he looked or something. So I don't know why that got said.
Also, we still know nothing about what a Time Agent actually is. Though 'kind of insane' seems to be on the menu.
And that last minute 'oh by the way'... hello dangly plot thread of goodness. Wants!
What else...
Gwen being the boss while Jack was away... okay, fine, she stopped being a newbie. But... her most consistent character trait in the first season was freezing under pressure. I'm not saying that as a Gwen hater, I'm saying that because it's there from Day One, through Greeks, always with the freezing. How did she get all take charge?
The conversation where Jack discovers Gwen's engagement ring... shipper anvils irritate me. I was going to say 'especially when he spent all last season telling her to go be with Rhys'. But then consider 1-12, the whole 'go to her' speech. And suddenly it looks like a pattern.
Tosh - techy competence FTW! And confidence - again, when did that happen? Well, when Jack and the audience weren't there. And I like it on her, but it do feel a bit... I don't know.
Owen though... what's with that speech about finding a girl? Is this the new shiny sympathetic Owen? Because that would be just weird.
Ianto - there was so much Ianto in this episode. Got to love that. I mean given the scarcity of minutes in last season he may have equalled it already. And there's some great moments, like when he's got a gun to his head but doesn't back down, or when he's always ready with the stopwatch. And he seems so cheerful. No rat tummy? But how will we recognise him?
Erm, that's my only complaint actually - if the characters continue being so new and improved they may have new and improved them into a reboot more than a progression. I'm hoping this is just how they kick off and the angsty grim woe shall be there in full measure later on. Seems likely from the previews.
Jack moments... I think I loved Jack in this, all the moments, all the time. I mean he was a bit... it felt like Jack the character was pushing the moments a bit, while the actor was being real subtle to give that impression. Yes? No? Like he's just a bit too full on, like he's been saving up some of this stuff all year and he has to say it all right now.
He asked Ianto out. With dinner and a movie. And had to check he meant yes.
I *hugs* them. Which you know.
I want to watch that bit over again actually. Everything from Jack's speech about the exotic nature of offices through Ianto's distracted working-now answers up to keep fetish to self. That was just neat.
Also neat? Ianto reaction shots. When he looks at the gun when the fish gets shot, that's pretty classic. But the look on his face when there's an orgy on offer? Oh, that's all kinds of classic there.
... Previews? Owen's line? Are we looking forward to some context or what?
I think this was a great kick off to a new season with a potentially new audience. I also think if everything is exactly like this they'll have lost bits I was watching for. But Torchwood does not equal everything exactly like anything, so methinks I'm pretty safe there.
Now I really want to rewatch, but I have very much tired and am awake 4 hours later than I was yesterday and my head hurts even after the painkillers and I've kind of got my eyes closed already. But I have recorded it. So I can go watch it again. As much as I want.
*happy*
A lot more with the funny than last year, yesno?
Most of the minutes they showed as previews were from the first 10 minutes. Except for the bit with him handcuffed to Gwen. I think I'd rather have not seen that. It would have been more fun if there was any doubt which side he's on.
JB said he's the Master to his Doctor, and there's a whole happy psychopath thing going on there, so I guess I can see that. He's the guy who has all the skills and none of the morals. It's fun. But only to watch.
There's the whole kiss you / kill you thing that he doesn't seem to have quite figured out. The line about rehab - somehow it plays totally funny, but it's totally not if you think about it. He's a wreck. A very pretty wreck, but he's not having fun. He's got no reason to give the 'come to the dark side' speech if he don't mean it, seeing as it was so easy to push him off the roof. And then he didn't seem quite sure how to react to that. Is interesting.
2 weeks / 5 years in a time loop? Now if that was like on Stargate or Groundhog Day where they could do whatever they liked and it reset all the time... I can see a way to connect the loop to the behaviour. Which would be interesting. Or, of course, the Time Agency might just recruit nutjobs.
Only 7 Time Agents left? Hmmm... consider the data source. Also if they're all time travellers there's no good reason that that means anything from here. I mean they could be sending back hundreds of agents in their prime and then have 7 left last time he looked or something. So I don't know why that got said.
Also, we still know nothing about what a Time Agent actually is. Though 'kind of insane' seems to be on the menu.
And that last minute 'oh by the way'... hello dangly plot thread of goodness. Wants!
What else...
Gwen being the boss while Jack was away... okay, fine, she stopped being a newbie. But... her most consistent character trait in the first season was freezing under pressure. I'm not saying that as a Gwen hater, I'm saying that because it's there from Day One, through Greeks, always with the freezing. How did she get all take charge?
The conversation where Jack discovers Gwen's engagement ring... shipper anvils irritate me. I was going to say 'especially when he spent all last season telling her to go be with Rhys'. But then consider 1-12, the whole 'go to her' speech. And suddenly it looks like a pattern.
Tosh - techy competence FTW! And confidence - again, when did that happen? Well, when Jack and the audience weren't there. And I like it on her, but it do feel a bit... I don't know.
Owen though... what's with that speech about finding a girl? Is this the new shiny sympathetic Owen? Because that would be just weird.
Ianto - there was so much Ianto in this episode. Got to love that. I mean given the scarcity of minutes in last season he may have equalled it already. And there's some great moments, like when he's got a gun to his head but doesn't back down, or when he's always ready with the stopwatch. And he seems so cheerful. No rat tummy? But how will we recognise him?
Erm, that's my only complaint actually - if the characters continue being so new and improved they may have new and improved them into a reboot more than a progression. I'm hoping this is just how they kick off and the angsty grim woe shall be there in full measure later on. Seems likely from the previews.
Jack moments... I think I loved Jack in this, all the moments, all the time. I mean he was a bit... it felt like Jack the character was pushing the moments a bit, while the actor was being real subtle to give that impression. Yes? No? Like he's just a bit too full on, like he's been saving up some of this stuff all year and he has to say it all right now.
He asked Ianto out. With dinner and a movie. And had to check he meant yes.
I *hugs* them. Which you know.
I want to watch that bit over again actually. Everything from Jack's speech about the exotic nature of offices through Ianto's distracted working-now answers up to keep fetish to self. That was just neat.
Also neat? Ianto reaction shots. When he looks at the gun when the fish gets shot, that's pretty classic. But the look on his face when there's an orgy on offer? Oh, that's all kinds of classic there.
... Previews? Owen's line? Are we looking forward to some context or what?
I think this was a great kick off to a new season with a potentially new audience. I also think if everything is exactly like this they'll have lost bits I was watching for. But Torchwood does not equal everything exactly like anything, so methinks I'm pretty safe there.
Now I really want to rewatch, but I have very much tired and am awake 4 hours later than I was yesterday and my head hurts even after the painkillers and I've kind of got my eyes closed already. But I have recorded it. So I can go watch it again. As much as I want.
*happy*
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Date: 2008-01-18 04:13 pm (UTC)My theories on TA range from big time police through to theatrical agency, but crime syndicate also fits the available facts. We need more facts.
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Date: 2008-01-18 09:05 pm (UTC)