the flash season 3 episode 2
Sep. 11th, 2017 09:31 pm![[personal profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png){kind=small}
beccaelizabethso, this is the new world...
and along with Barry, we get to realise everything we know is wrong, so that's... why do that to your viewers?
also the squirmy embarrassment of ao many social errors in a row had me watching through my fingers.
an entire episode of embarrassing flailing before he actually tells the truth
... is variably consistent, given that Barry's life for so many years involved trying to tell the truth about the impossible, and getting negative consequences for it
like, he should be trying, but he knows it's going to go so poorly.
I knew a bazillion spoilers before watching, so none of it had shock value to me and I have no feels about the new-new version.
... spoilers suck the feels out and I should get a tv channel that actually shows it this year.
... except I don't trust these shows enough to watch them without spoilers?
ANYway... thus far the spoilers are the only reason I care about Julian's opinion. Like, there being a guy at work who doesn't trust him is totally fair, but it's never going to have lasting consequences, so I have trouble caring. But Julian gets a character arc, so I'll pay a bit of attention.
Cisco gets a sad. But Cisco also has superpowers that mean he should have remembered both timelines? But that might be why he mentioned memories in grief counselling. ... it is cool he's getting healthy support, to compare and contrast with Barry I must fix the universe and reroll everyone's choices Allen.
And Caitlin? We all have secrets? Ow.
... I'm pretty sure I'm going to hate the comic book approach to mental illness, but I have a lot of practice at that, so.
Jay knocking Barry into the 90s to have a chat with him was class. And Barry gets yet another speedster mentor, this one more part time.
Jay's demonstration with the coffee cup makes more sense than two seasons of Legends of Tomorrow, yet time travel is so inconsistent I don't even know if it's meant to be accurate. It's a really good reason to prevent all time travel, if true, and explains the end of LoT season 2, and yet we've got a time travel show to play in so nobody is going to conclude that alterations to time are too dangerous.
The thing that's bothering me that nobody brought up - or ever brings up when Barry time travels - is what happened to his other self? There's clearly significant differences in behaviour, since all his friends noticed. There's differences in his personal history. There's probably differences in who he cares about, seeing as there's a different set of people even in existence in the new universe. The two of them would make different choices. So they aren't the same person. So what's the word for our Barry getting rid of their Barry and living instead?
Because the closest thing I'm coming up with is murder.
Like, what Thawne did to Wells, without the telltale body.
Which, you know, should be a Thing.
But if his memories are going to change to match the new timeline, like the did in Flashpoint? ... or was he just losing old memories, not gaining new ones? Okay, if he's going to lose the old memories, mostly, like in Flashpoint, and gain new ones, ish, like Marting on the Waverider, then does changing the timeline erase or merge either or both the Barry's that previously existed? Or, like, all three?
Ugh, this is complicated, this should be a big deal.
Also, I do keep thinking about Reverse Flash, but how many times has he done this to himselves, and how much does it explain about him?
So, as an episode, it gave me thoughts, but not feels.
Shall see how the season goes on.
and along with Barry, we get to realise everything we know is wrong, so that's... why do that to your viewers?
also the squirmy embarrassment of ao many social errors in a row had me watching through my fingers.
an entire episode of embarrassing flailing before he actually tells the truth
... is variably consistent, given that Barry's life for so many years involved trying to tell the truth about the impossible, and getting negative consequences for it
like, he should be trying, but he knows it's going to go so poorly.
I knew a bazillion spoilers before watching, so none of it had shock value to me and I have no feels about the new-new version.
... spoilers suck the feels out and I should get a tv channel that actually shows it this year.
... except I don't trust these shows enough to watch them without spoilers?
ANYway... thus far the spoilers are the only reason I care about Julian's opinion. Like, there being a guy at work who doesn't trust him is totally fair, but it's never going to have lasting consequences, so I have trouble caring. But Julian gets a character arc, so I'll pay a bit of attention.
Cisco gets a sad. But Cisco also has superpowers that mean he should have remembered both timelines? But that might be why he mentioned memories in grief counselling. ... it is cool he's getting healthy support, to compare and contrast with Barry I must fix the universe and reroll everyone's choices Allen.
And Caitlin? We all have secrets? Ow.
... I'm pretty sure I'm going to hate the comic book approach to mental illness, but I have a lot of practice at that, so.
Jay knocking Barry into the 90s to have a chat with him was class. And Barry gets yet another speedster mentor, this one more part time.
Jay's demonstration with the coffee cup makes more sense than two seasons of Legends of Tomorrow, yet time travel is so inconsistent I don't even know if it's meant to be accurate. It's a really good reason to prevent all time travel, if true, and explains the end of LoT season 2, and yet we've got a time travel show to play in so nobody is going to conclude that alterations to time are too dangerous.
The thing that's bothering me that nobody brought up - or ever brings up when Barry time travels - is what happened to his other self? There's clearly significant differences in behaviour, since all his friends noticed. There's differences in his personal history. There's probably differences in who he cares about, seeing as there's a different set of people even in existence in the new universe. The two of them would make different choices. So they aren't the same person. So what's the word for our Barry getting rid of their Barry and living instead?
Because the closest thing I'm coming up with is murder.
Like, what Thawne did to Wells, without the telltale body.
Which, you know, should be a Thing.
But if his memories are going to change to match the new timeline, like the did in Flashpoint? ... or was he just losing old memories, not gaining new ones? Okay, if he's going to lose the old memories, mostly, like in Flashpoint, and gain new ones, ish, like Marting on the Waverider, then does changing the timeline erase or merge either or both the Barry's that previously existed? Or, like, all three?
Ugh, this is complicated, this should be a big deal.
Also, I do keep thinking about Reverse Flash, but how many times has he done this to himselves, and how much does it explain about him?
So, as an episode, it gave me thoughts, but not feels.
Shall see how the season goes on.