Vampires and other monsters

[beccaelizabeth]

The fic I'm reading just had vampires turn up in the werewolf story
and I just got totally sidetracked looking up Forever Knight lore.

It has been a lot of years since I watched my Forever Knight dvds. I don't remember any plots anymore. Now I want to watch again.
But I don't have season 3 and don't remember why.

I remember Forever Knight had specific words and rules for vampires whose first kill wasn't human
(they keep wanting to wat that species, can turn them into vampire dogs etc, and other vampires mostly think they're crazy creeps)(because of not murdering humans)(unless really hungry)

So now I'm stuck wondering if werewolf blood counts as basically human
or if you'd get a werewolf obsessed vampire
and of course the answer is whatever the author makes story of, but that's somehow unsatisfying.

And can you make vampires into werewolves and vice versa

and
I have far too many different rule sets in my head
and can break out useless Lore for most contingencies.

... I know why RPGs do rules, because players are Like That, but I'm not sure what story really needs this particular combination.

... mind you, I'd forgotten story about vampire dogs, and they got at least an episode out of that. There's story everywhere...



Also I'm vaguely pondering that you can often tell which vampires an author is thinking of, sort of vaguely. Haven't seen any that remind me of FK particularly, lately, but there's a bit of a difference between Buffyesque vamps and anything via White Wolf.


I'm a bit bored of vampire stories. Like, seems like the story is either going for regular He Had To moments, or big into Woe Is Me I Am A Monster. Or just killing the vamps a lot, which is the other way up of Had To.

But I see a collection of disabilities and addiction in a leather duster, and want to set the world up so there's room for their continued existence and they can get therapy and so forth. Like vampires live in a society that does not respond with a good being killed. Haven't seen much of that one.


I just get very worked up about the category overlap with leech, parasite etc

I mean earlier this morning I spent a while explaining to imaginary people how goa'uld were treated poorly by both plot and characters. Just because they are parasites doesn't mean killing them all is fair! So they have very limited mobility and senses and cognitive capacity without an assistant, so what? Figure outhow that assistant can be in a voluntary relationship and what shape society would have to be for them to live in it. Just because goa'uld haven't thought of Jadzia Dax and learned all their social skills in pharaohnic times doesn't mean they can't learn.


... I realise exp'aining to imaginary people is not a good use of my time but I spent most of yesterday with a headache and I get bored while trying to sleep.


ANYway, monsters and parasites, I just try and social model that stuff until there's a way for everyone to get along. Different needs are not a moral issue.

... killing people obviously is.

... just, so many stories are an excuse for some cathartic violence, and I am increasingly not a fan.


We are civilised beings who are actually very good at figuring out how to get along.
more stories should be about that.



... I haven't finished reading the fic I was on when I got sidetracked and they were in the middle of a fight. I'll go read that...

Comments

[anne_d]

If a vampire turned a werewolf, assuming that is even possible, both being undead, what would you get? A vampire except at full moon? What would happen if the werewolf bit the vampire? A were-bat? This is fun.

[jesuswasbatman]

Supposedly a lot of folklore suggested that werewolves became vampires after they died unless they were pre-emptively staked/decapitated.