The amount of wealth a Pathfinder party can accumulate is absolutely wild.
If it was possible to use Inevitable Excess to make more people via hiring them as Pathfinders then you would end the game with slightly less than the 200,000gp it takes to hire at level 20 according to the wiki. IE seems to make you choose a party and lose the rest but if I'm making up stories that is Bad and Foolish so nope.
So say you arrive on Earth with 199,999gp.
Today's gold price says it is £2084.37 per oz, which the royal mint says is a troy ounce https://www.royalmint.com/gold-price/gold-price-uk/
With help from google my math today makes that £607.94 per gold piece and a lot of trailing bits that matter when you multiply it by a couple hundred thousand, so that makes that fortune be worth
£121,587,655.95
very approximately and only if I did the maths right.
Gold prices have been both higher and lower even this year, this math changes whenever you do it, so maybe adventurers will want to keep their gold as gold.
... could anyone tell it was gold from another planet? that's plot relevant ever so often...
But these adventurers could arrive back and spend approx £30million to buy a shopping mall and a 56 bedroom 'house' former school (£25 & £4 millions each according to stuff I read in local papers and on rightmove)(... the school has a Camelia House...). They'd theoretically get income from the mall (for now) and be able to set up a wizard school. And they'd still have... well, taxes to pay like woah I imagine, and a big stack of gold that could be worth over £90million.
And that's not pricing up their actual gear they'd have to be wearing to survive the Threshold.
There's not a lot of single magic items they couldn't afford at that price either, but getting them in Inevitable Excess is harder.
... explaining why I'm using IE for a background takes a lot of spoilers, but to start with you meet a demigod of paradox, lawful edition, and while you are there you learn to travel anywhere you can think of, kind of sort of if the computer feels like letting you, so these seemed like excellent ingredients for arriving wherever you please, ie another planet, especially if it avoids a paradox.
The thing is to have that little money by the end of the game you either... play on high enough difficulty it all goes to healing potions, hoard all the gear so you end up with all the magic items and none of the gold, or spend it on people from the Pathfinders.
For a lot of the game you are setting up and building the buildings in a kingdom, with some income generated by the places you've already fixed up, but a bunch coming in by adventuring.
... when Galfrey gives you orders she says to spend 'the money provided', which at that point is a bit of a cheek, on account of it is your money you just bled for actually. But later there is indeed income provided by the crusade. She just never makes a distinction, and the game isn't particularly well disposed towards hoarding your shinies either. It would be difficult if you never put money in the crusade.
... now I kind of want to try never outting money in the crusade...
But it means all this money has to go towards equipping your party but also building a bunch of settlements and stuff.
And it's in gold pieces so it's just imaginary numbers money.
The conversion rate between Golarion and Earth changes very greatly depending on what goods you are converting, so it's not like you can just think hmm, every gold is £500 or something.
... but if you do the amounts of money being splashed around grt a lot more impressive.
But it's easy in game to just see how much Stuff you can't wear yet because Money.
So now I'm imagining adventurers arriving home with end of game money they haven't even spent on people and... that is so much more money.
So so much.
It's well past winning the lottery money as above. You can add more zeros.
Imagine being one of the world's richest people, but you got there by killing demon lord demigods.
And nicking their stuff.
The attractive fantasy of adventuring.
Except Bilbo Baggins brought the wealth of kingdoms home and stuck it in a museum, so, if said wealth isn't recogniseable or useful when you get there, that's much funnier.
I am bored and was trying to think of something to do that isn't the same xbox game over again again but instead I am doing imaginary math about it so I'll probably end up in the game again.
If it was possible to use Inevitable Excess to make more people via hiring them as Pathfinders then you would end the game with slightly less than the 200,000gp it takes to hire at level 20 according to the wiki. IE seems to make you choose a party and lose the rest but if I'm making up stories that is Bad and Foolish so nope.
So say you arrive on Earth with 199,999gp.
Today's gold price says it is £2084.37 per oz, which the royal mint says is a troy ounce https://www.royalmint.com/gold-price/gold-price-uk/
With help from google my math today makes that £607.94 per gold piece and a lot of trailing bits that matter when you multiply it by a couple hundred thousand, so that makes that fortune be worth
£121,587,655.95
very approximately and only if I did the maths right.
Gold prices have been both higher and lower even this year, this math changes whenever you do it, so maybe adventurers will want to keep their gold as gold.
... could anyone tell it was gold from another planet? that's plot relevant ever so often...
But these adventurers could arrive back and spend approx £30million to buy a shopping mall and a 56 bedroom 'house' former school (£25 & £4 millions each according to stuff I read in local papers and on rightmove)(... the school has a Camelia House...). They'd theoretically get income from the mall (for now) and be able to set up a wizard school. And they'd still have... well, taxes to pay like woah I imagine, and a big stack of gold that could be worth over £90million.
And that's not pricing up their actual gear they'd have to be wearing to survive the Threshold.
There's not a lot of single magic items they couldn't afford at that price either, but getting them in Inevitable Excess is harder.
... explaining why I'm using IE for a background takes a lot of spoilers, but to start with you meet a demigod of paradox, lawful edition, and while you are there you learn to travel anywhere you can think of, kind of sort of if the computer feels like letting you, so these seemed like excellent ingredients for arriving wherever you please, ie another planet, especially if it avoids a paradox.
The thing is to have that little money by the end of the game you either... play on high enough difficulty it all goes to healing potions, hoard all the gear so you end up with all the magic items and none of the gold, or spend it on people from the Pathfinders.
For a lot of the game you are setting up and building the buildings in a kingdom, with some income generated by the places you've already fixed up, but a bunch coming in by adventuring.
... when Galfrey gives you orders she says to spend 'the money provided', which at that point is a bit of a cheek, on account of it is your money you just bled for actually. But later there is indeed income provided by the crusade. She just never makes a distinction, and the game isn't particularly well disposed towards hoarding your shinies either. It would be difficult if you never put money in the crusade.
... now I kind of want to try never outting money in the crusade...
But it means all this money has to go towards equipping your party but also building a bunch of settlements and stuff.
And it's in gold pieces so it's just imaginary numbers money.
The conversion rate between Golarion and Earth changes very greatly depending on what goods you are converting, so it's not like you can just think hmm, every gold is £500 or something.
... but if you do the amounts of money being splashed around grt a lot more impressive.
But it's easy in game to just see how much Stuff you can't wear yet because Money.
So now I'm imagining adventurers arriving home with end of game money they haven't even spent on people and... that is so much more money.
So so much.
It's well past winning the lottery money as above. You can add more zeros.
Imagine being one of the world's richest people, but you got there by killing demon lord demigods.
And nicking their stuff.
The attractive fantasy of adventuring.
Except Bilbo Baggins brought the wealth of kingdoms home and stuck it in a museum, so, if said wealth isn't recogniseable or useful when you get there, that's much funnier.
I am bored and was trying to think of something to do that isn't the same xbox game over again again but instead I am doing imaginary math about it so I'll probably end up in the game again.
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Date: 2024-11-30 10:43 pm (UTC)which would take 40 Strength 10 people to carry even if they wore nothing.
Only 10 with Strength 20 though, that's more achievable, ish, by the end of the game with a bunch of magic.
See this is why I have elaborate headcanons about the bank of Abadar and how it functions on the Worldwound, because otherwise nobody could carry their treasure home. Gold weighs nothing in game once you pick it up as coins! How?
Well obviously (!)
the Bank of Abadar
has a personal vault connected to your biometrics and identity
that keeps your actual gold pieces for you
and just does the math for you, possibly on a handshake.
... then deposits a lifetime of coins onto a corpse for picking up?
... possibly they died without a will?
Of course this doesn't explain how Horgus Gwerm didn't have money on him underground
but 2000gp weighs 40lb
a comfy medium load for an average strength person
but where would he be hiding it?
Also, where did he get it from, once he was at Defender's Heart but hadn't visited his mansion?
Where else but the Abadaran priest in the corner, the Banker.
... yes I know xbox number go up but Pathfinder has weights for money so reconciling the two rulesets be tricksy...
Oh, also? Does that mean we nick stuff from Abadar in IE, since we are in Axis? Or from the accounts of our primary? Are we spending one singular pot of non renewable money or, like the gear, is it duplicated?
Is money we make in IE actually money when we get outside?
These and other questions where the answer is at the speed of the plot do vex me.