More Gwen thoughts

[beccaelizabeth]

So if Rhys is happy normalcy and Owen is sexy darkness (with the shine massively wearing thin by the end of the season) then how does 1-13 change things? Because Rhys got killed and Owen did a really fucking stupid thing, or several in a row actually. And Rhys got killed by Torchwood style badness. And so did a load of Cardiff citizens. Torchwood didn't kill Rhys, but they did kill large chunks of Cardiff. Rhys came back to life. We lack data on the rest of Cardiff.

So how does that change the math on who Gwen shags?

Will she remain attracted to both worlds? Happy normal world and dark fucked up world?

If she pulls back because things went so very badly... because she nearly lost normal completely... hmmm...

If she stops shagging Owen because he's a bit of a tosser that's one thing, but if he's playing symbolic attraction to the dark side of power then that's a bit of another. Because it's figuring out that she's becoming dark too. But when she said she was stopping things with Owen, because he was a bastard, guess what she was doing? Yup, being at her worst, using Torchwood power to try and manipulate her personal bit of normal. So it isn't exactly like she's had her moment of realisation there yet.

People are saying that two-timing Rhys after he died would be low. And, okay, yes. But... and it pains me to say this, really... Owen had bad stuff happen to him too. Jack forgave him. If Gwen won't sleep with him any more is it because (a) she doesn't forgive him, despite participating fully in most of it (b) she doesn't fancy Torchwood as much and it's all going unshiny or (c) she just doesn't like Owen?

If she dumps Owen and starts dating, I don't know, Tosh, then that would be personal dislike of Owen but still liking Torchwood.

She's becoming more like Owen, specifically, over the course of the season. 1-09 actually has a significant, albeit plausibility stretching, moment - Gwen picks up the knife to do Owen's job, Gwen becoming Owen, just a bit. But not the healer parts. And she doesn't know how to do it right yet. And then when she does her bad thing that's using chemistry to manage relationships, which again, is very specifically Owen. And she and Owen had the most closely matching motives for opening the Rift.

You know, ignoring the fact I'm not sure Tosh had *any* decent motive for it.

So if Gwen stops shagging him is she going to stop being like him too?

If she was being more like Tosh and getting closer to her and using her CCTV and database stuff - which she, as a police officer, specificly objected to in the early eps - then she would be crossing one set of lines.

Being more like Owen? A whole other set. But I'm not sure what words to put around them.

Fuck the world because they know better?
Get who they want via Torchwood tech?

But neither of them are empty. This isn't villain laugh stuff. This is screwing up, but also caring, and trying to help.

Is interesting.


I took that thought for a wander and I'm not sure it went anywhere. Oh well.

Comments

[randomalia.livejournal.com]

You have fascinating meta thoughts, you know. :) I happened to catch this on a friends list and I really like your idea of Gwen becoming more like Owen. I think the first season is partly her transformation, partly her struggle against it. I suspect it's Rhys and Jack that push and pull her the most: Jack encourages her to keep her normal life, at the same time he draws her in to Torchwood; Rhys is a great deal of happiness for her but at the same time, normal can be boring for Gwen. She's excited by Torchwood (this is where her parallel to Suzie comes in most strongly?).

But with 1x13, not only is Jack gone but, presumably, Owen is the new boss. So I wonder how that will affect things?

[beccaelizabeth]

:-) thanks
*nods*

and *wishes for time machine so could see quicker*