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Jul. 22nd, 2014 07:10 pm
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I'm reading a book at the moment that's one of those meet the aliens things, and it's making me uncomfortable because it's using a lot of phrasing that reminds me of cliche-China while adding that these aliens have no concept of love. Actually, even without that twist, it would make me uncomfortable to make the aliens Chinese. It's all in the phrasing with words like Auspicious and Heaven coming up a lot, and cities that have to be built in alignment with the land, and obsession with numerology. I'd like to be reading the plot but instead I'm tripping over the fakey scenery, you know? China is not alien, aliens are not china, and it's bothering me.

So I was thinking on why. It doesn't even have to be racism. When we look at other cultures we notice the sticking out parts, the glaring, the obvious. It fines it down to a stereotype fast. And we're usually unaware of the underlying reasoning, the geographic, ecological, historical conditions that made it all make sense. So we get a hollow system of glaring incongruities.

When I did cultural studies we'd look at historical literature, but whatever we learned to spot there we'd bring that to bear on current culture, and lo and behold we'd have a lot in common. So I think there's a better way to write about the Other. Look at what's foreign to you, sure, for a start, find those glaring parts, but then, come back to the familiar and find them at home too. Find the heritage buildings and the lucky numbers and trying to make your phone number spell something, and then use the familiar to make strange. Then, when you're writing your aliens, take those parts of your own culture out of context and defamiliarised. You'll have your strange Other aliens, but you'll have a lot more to draw on. And you'll have a lot of everyday language to draw on, with different social levels and so forth built in, so already it'll sound less fake.

It's like when you're looking for a Doctor Who plot. You look around your house, your office, your school, your drive in, your supermarket, and then you pick something and say 'what's weird about this'. Well, usually you say 'how could an alien kill us with this', but it's the same principle. And Doctor Who has survived on that for 50 years. So that works pretty good.

Don't present places you don't know as foreign, do it to your home town, and see what the new perspective gives you.
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I very nearly didn't watch this one at the cinema. Even without reading past the spoiler cut, none of my friends seemed excited, or even vaguely approving. There wasn't a sudden explosion of fic, or indeed any fic that turned up where I was reading, where there had been for the previous movie. And I was somewhat apprehensive about that whole 'Darkness' bit, since grimdark is a pervasive problem.

But hey, it's Star Trek! I always watch Star Trek!
... but now I've watched it I am far from convinced it is Star Trek.

Plus some of the more familiar complaints would apply even if it were just some random movie with spaceships.

So it's kind of hovering on the line between 'those hours could have been better spent sleeping' and 'kinda wish I hadn't given them my money'.

But it only actively pissed me off when it was most directly a remix of previous Trek. And at those points, it really and sincerely did.

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So was there any of the film I liked?

... I liked the music. I stayed to the end of the credits listening the music.



*really big sigh*



So maybe this wasn't my best day for watching. I've been awake a really long time. My original plan involved coming home much earlier, but I just finished college (all! finished! Work returned and log book picked up and Done now!) so I wanted to Do Something.



This particular something leaves me wanting to write my spaceship movie. Not wanting to watch this one.
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I was trying to find out the history of Chinese people in Norwich. But every way I google for it I just get a ton of Chinese restaurants. *facepalm*

"What did the Chinese do for us?" reckons "The Chinese population has been in Norwich for an estimated 50 years" and "Chinese population [...] in the 2001 demographic census was 1,399 - not including several hundred students at UEA" but it also reckons "Across Norfolk the Chinese community is one of the largest ethnic groups behind Indian and Asian."

... Chinese is not Asian? Bzuh?

The article is about (a) Chinese New Year dragons and (b) Chinese restaurants. "meals, mah-jong and of course firecrackers, gongs and dragons." Ah, and waaaaaay down the page it mentions "The Chinese population are involved with a wide variety of occupations, for example there are many Chinese Doctors at Norfolk and Norwich Hospital."

There's a mention of a couple of Chinese Associations which work to raise awareness, so they've probably got more information. I google for them.

... I find first something about illegal immigrants.


So,I guess I'm finding some things about usual portrayals of Chinese people in the media then.

So far, nobody mentioned martial arts. That's the only surprise.
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I've been reading some more books that I think I liked ten years ago.
... I was a very different reader then.

They're very clearly written by someone who spends waaaay too much time playing level-based RPGs. The kind where you get a castle if you go up enough levels. And it treats women and children as Dependents ie sources of plot motivation and therefore jeopardy.

What it never actually does is treat the female characters as *PCs*. They're not players, they don't do things for themselves. Sometimes they don't even get any lines. There's one woman who exists to be called dangerous a lot and then killed. She never speaks a word. She just makes plot happen by her violent death.

I've had enough of that shit from comics, you know?

Women and children are not plot motivators. They're people. Sometimes mini people. But if they keep on getting killed offscreen to get the (rich white male) player characters into action then it gets all kinds of creepy.

And having a wider ethnic mix is cool, yes, *but* if all the non-white characters are effectively NPCs, if the only reason they ever do anything is because one of the pov PCs tells them to, that winds up mega creepy too. I mean at some time the author must have thought it was a cute learning experience to have a poor colored kid have serving a rich white guy as their highest aspiration, and the tragic death is a staple of the fantasy genre, but if you stack it all together you get something that kind of turns my stomach.

Furthermore simply identifying someone by their probable ethnic background, on first sight and all subsequent identifications, and never elaborating on any aspect of their character, comes across as way creepy. I mean for a start they're writing about cities where all these ethnic groups mix together, so they can get that exotic far off lands adventuring experience, but they're identifying them all as being from and/or of or fundamentally just being the ethnic group indicated by their skin color. So, no mixed race marriages in fantasyland in their few thousand year old empire then.

Having random color provided by inventing a race that keep their women naked and in chains is also not scoring any feminist points whatsoever. It isn't even like they're the bad guys, they just wander past to have people stare at them.

Then there's the other genre staple, the 'secret son of nobility' thing. It's that whole 'blood will tell' thing hiding in there. Add it to the 'I happily die for you master!' stuff and the 'crazy ethnic mystic' stuff and the 'dark skinned women who coincidentally happen to wander around with no clothes on and want a lot of sex and yet never produce mixed race offspring for reasons the text will never bother getting into' and...

The only reason I liked these books in the first place was I was reading them with my eyes closed.


There have to be better books than these. Ones where women are fully featured player characters with motives of their very own. Ones where what happens to the babies is actually a Thing and not just a 'now we skip twenty years so we can write about more white male teenagers again' thing.

... every time I read more of this rubbish I'm rather put off going to look for them, you know?

I mean sometimes I try a new author and get something shiny, but sometimes I try a new author and find half way through the first book the strong female character I was quite liking at the start has ended up impregnated with shapeshifter babies who might kill her. By her half brother.
(I don't know how that book ended. I think I threw it away. The scary part is it seemed to be the start of a series.)


another thing: On the whole, babies don't kill you. I mean, difficult and dangerous pregnancies happen, yes, fine, but quite often the only thing that happens between 'start pregnancy' and 'baby arrives' is you get much bigger around the middle.
... er, people who've actually had babies can point and laugh now, of course.
What I mean is, demon babies? Really not the point.
Sometimes people have babies because they want to. And then they raise them because they want to. And there's no rape or incest or demonic shapeshifting lifesucking involved *at all*.


Yes, this even applies to males. Yes, even mpreg. I realise all that artistically wasting away as they prove their love via dying so the child of their union can live is... well, happening in plural of stories, so presumably worth the time to someone, but dear god is it annoying. Making more life is all about life! Where the heck did this =death bit come in???

Also, and I realise this ends up a swipe at the whole hurt/comfort genre but I'm on a roll now so I'll just be cranky in public... when I back out of this sentence and start over... ahem...

Also, I do not think that the thing where someone is dying and someone else is caring for them is in fact a good basis for a solid lifelong relationship. Granted, if the dying part actually happens then it will indeed have lasted for life, but I don't read deathfic if I can avoid it so I mean those miraculous last minute save times. The dying/caring thing - those are some pretty well defined roles there. And once they're out of those roles they're in effect in a completely different relationship. In any pairing I seek out they're back to a relationship of near-equals in a working partnership.

Having and raising babies? Plus the near-equals working-partnership thing? Could be incredibly cute.

I mean really, this is the kind of real life challenge that most people face - they've got all these skills and talents and this relationship that's rolling along pretty well with the two of them, and then there's a baby, and they're faced with a whole new challenge, being three with a whole new focus and work that maybe doesn't divide in convenient ways and all the compromises involved with that. And, oh yes, possibly defeating alien invasions or keeping the forces of darkness at bay and all that. Balancing the needs of the many against the needs of the few, or the one.

How is this not cool?

Why aren't there more stories about this?

I can understand on TV, because they'd have to hire babies and that doesn't work so very well.
But word-writers lack budget and time constraints.


But then there's the other thing, where babies exist for daft plot reasons. Like I read one where there's a time travel story a bit like Back to the Future where the kid has to go make sure her parents shag. I don't remember which set of parents those were. Given that I at least started to read it either they were two guys or I was really desperate for fic that day. But in Back to the Future the protagonist is the kid who travels and they have this whole arc... I think, I haven't watched it in an age, but a finding themself thing going on, yesno? But in this fic the character was not the protagonist and all she existed for was to get these two other characters together.

How messed up is that?
Because again: Women and children? Not merely motivation for others.


I realise making a baby or a five year old exist as a person in their own right is a tad bit difficult. But it bugs me. Not even tiny people should just be a means to an end! Especially the end of getting two parental units to get or stay together. I mean how often and how badly does that go wrong? Besides which, I've never found 'oops, pregnant, must marry!' a particularly romantic resolution.

My absolute least favourite though is when there's "oops, false alarm, no baby". Because then there's no baby. There was +1 person and now there's -1 person and just because they're fictional doesn't mean I can't get upset.

I haven't read that often though. And one time the presumed-baby had tentacles. Apparently getting rid of tentacle things is supposed to be different.

... I think I've read far too many stories where people come equipped with all kinds of parts, including tentacles, to actually feel that.

... this is also a drawback with the demonic pregnancy thing. Because if demons are people too, then it's just sad either way.




/rant
or more like slightly incoherent trailing off of rant.
I should probably sleep soon.
beccaelizabeth: my Watcher tattoo in blue, plus Be in red Buffy style font (Default)
I have before mentioned Issues with Cybermen when read as a disability thing. Because calling them less than human is like saying humanity=meat, and you can lose it by the limb.

But. I think they fixed it.
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I had a half a thought.

When describing characters in a society where there are lots of different ethnicities the description seems to start with skin, hair, and eyes.

But historically there would be mostly same looking people in the same place. I mean, even now, in places that are else. But I'm reading one of those elves and dwarves fantasy books, so I was thinking pretend middle ages.

I think England had a bunch of different looks, on account of all the invaders. Lots of different sorts of white and blonde and brunette and all that.

But describing characters who are all dark skin dark hair dark eyes would have to start with something different.

Height and build and if their face is broad or narrow? What shape their nose is? If they have a nice smile?
I don't know. And I feel vaguely like I should know. Like I should have read a bunch of books where skin hair eyes aren't useful distinguishing features and so I should remember from them.



Of course being the awkward me I am I'm thinking on the extreme case of a whole bunch of clones now. I guess then there would be different hair styles. And maybe scars. Or makeup. Or consistent clothing. Or deliberately inconsistent clothing, like the one really awkward guy who picks a different clonesib to dress up as every day.

I'm also vaguely wondering if red hair and green (or violet) eyes turns up in not-white backgrounds. I should probably know that.



But my half thought was something like, my reading seems a bit narrow somehow. In the way it assumes diversity. Weird.




Writing exercise: Write about characters but leave out skin hair eyes completely.

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