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My annual brave thing has been achieved, with only two panic attacks, and a whole inability to talk of course, which I wouldn't usually bother mentioning but the edp tried to interview me and it not work, I got as far as 'n n n n n' of trying to say not work, and they got the idea.
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But I went, and there was maximum rainbows.

Pride is good.
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I was talking to mum about maybe going to see Wonder Woman
and was talking about the diversity and how there's pictures of all these muscular warrior women on screen doing all the fighting and being strong and awesome and varied and muscles
and like half way through the conversation mum suddenly remembered I'm queer
and you could hear her recontextualising the whole conversation thus far
and I'm like
yep.
yes indeedy.

And then I had to try and assure her there is also a plot, which would have been easier if I'd paid one iota of attention to what it actually is.

... look, I know I'm going to see this, at that point actually knowing what's going on is spoilers.

I also told her there were guys to look at too and then that turned into a long mutual complain about how everyone is way too young now, and what are our options? Try to fancy people half our age? Ugh.

Conversation concluded with deciding to watch Iron Man, because we can agree about RDjr.



It's kind of relaxing that this is all being out has ended up meaning.
Course it's also why I previously thought I was out, but, that whole thing worked out anyway.
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Norwich Pride parade was today, and I was walking in it, all the way around!
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Rainbows day :-)
Parade :-)
:-)

Legend

May. 7th, 2011 04:16 pm
beccaelizabeth: very goth red and black butterfly (butterfly)
You know how you watch things as a kid and certain scenes stay in you mind, and then sink in and become part of the structure?
And you know how rewatching things as an adult you get a whole different perspective on why?
I just rewatched Legend.

The bit of that film that stays with me is Lily and the dark dancer (link goes to YouTube; if the music isn't to your liking try one of the other links to roughly the same clip to get music from a different cut).
I loved that whole sequence, the dress and the sparkle and the dancing.
The thing I notice now?

Darkness is setting out to seduce her - that's the specific word. So there's food (in shades of red and black) and diamonds glittering and skulls and bones in silver and incredible goth dresses.

But mostly there's this glittering darkness, this beautiful dancer, this woman. She's sent to seduce the princess. She dances for her, flickering like the flames and with stars in her face. And first the princess is afraid, running, in rags and tatters, but then she's watching, the dancer cupping her face but not quite touching, watching her dance, and then she dances out with her. The dancer pulls her out, and they dance together, wild, then spin apart, and then the princess reaches out for her, welcoming, wanting her.
Then with a swirl of dress the princess is the dancer, dark and beautiful.

It's very gorgeous, very goth, and very very queer.

It has that tangle between wanting and wanting to be. It's not just about a good girl getting seduced to the dark side, and the power she finds in the darkness. When she embraces the dancer she still rejects the man that sent her. Well, great big horned beast, this not being a subtle film in any other respect. She rejects the stripped to the waist muscular man, and embraces the dark woman. ... so, not exactly subtle there either, except I somehow doubt it was intended.

I know there's a whole film around this scene, but it tends to fade out of my mind.
I just remember the dance.

... sometimes I look back at me as a kid and it makes a lot more sense from here...
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Soldiers and a sailor in fight to be Mr Gay UK

Mr Plymouth stood slightly apart from the other contestants playing Trivial Pursuit in the guest house reception. Steve Grant, a 22-year-old Royal Navy weapon engineer, only came out to half of his friends and family earlier in the week when he discovered that he was able to attend the final because his submarine had docked earlier than expected. Despite his nerves, he felt he was in with a reasonable chance.

Last year's winner, a young PC called Mark Carter, romped to victory when he took to the stage in full police garb, including stab-proof vest, for the "dress to impress" round. Grant was hoping his sailor suit could do the same for him.

There was momentary consternation when Mr Edinburgh, student A J Ward, 19, discovered that his nearest geographical rival, Mr Glasgow, was also planning to dress as a "sexy squaddie". But Ward decided that he had the upper hand. "I bet his trousers don't rip off like this," he said, miming pulling off his trousers in one.



... I'm getting a sudden terrible fic bunny involving Stargate.
... See, this is the kind of thing the US military is missing out on.

;-)


(The bit about the guy who only just came out made me LOL. Imagine that conversation!)
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The thing I love most about Torchwood is that anyone could shag anyone.

Sometimes it works out rather badly. I'm still real annoyed at 1-07.

But we have a SF show, a show where it's not starting off as being about queer folks, that just happens to have a lot of queer characters. I love that. A lot.

And yet so far, what have we seen most of?

same old same old. het ships.

We got a couple of tantalising hints of Jack/Ianto, and I really hope they do more with that.

But they also ladled it on about Jack/Gwen, and I'd really like to hope it weren't futile to hope they don't do more of that.

It isn't because I dislike Gwen. Even if I loved Gwen the closest I'd get to wanting to include her is threesome. Like Jack and Martha and the Doctor, as long as there is some Jack/Doctor there's plenty of room for Martha.

But that thing where you've got the two series leads and they have UST and significant glances and set them up with some kind of true love thing... if those leads are a guy and a girl, we have seen that before. I personally have seen that so many times I'm fed up of it. I don't seek it out. I would in fact avoid it, if - big if! - there were in fact an alternative.

Can you name me a show that *doesn't* ship their m/f leads? UST *everywhere* and all of it het.

Classic DW has a lack of kissing. I like that. They get on with running away from Daleks and stuff and it's quite refreshing.

Torchwood? Jack/Ianto. Sexual tension, and m/m. Quite possibly resolved sexual tension, for the win. And we have something *new*.

If there's any other show - any F&SF at all - where there's a same sex relationship, please do tell. I know about Buffy. I love Buffy. But where's the *other* show? And where are the guys?

Jack/Ianto would be shiny new, damn near unique, and exactly what I actually do seek out in my fiction.

Jack/f would not.

bored now!

guys must kiss for my amusement!


and also girls. Tosh needs a nice new girlfriend. Who isn't crazy. Or evil. Or dead.

but that's a whole other complain.
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Someone did a poll on what sex we'd like to see in Torchwood.
What I'm looking for? Stuff we don't see on every other show.
I mean, there's nothing particularly unusual about the het we saw.
But even a couple of queer kisses stand out as unusual. Stupid, yet true.
Actual queer sex? Not something we're so likely to see on other shows.
So, reason to watch Torchwood instead.


The same applies to Weevils. Or things with tentacles. Or floaty sex gas... actually, no, I think I've seen floaty sex gas before.

While the source of pleasure there would be quite different - weevils do not look like porn to me - it would be distinctive.



I hates it when you can't tell which show you're watching. Too much of TV is too similar, trying to grab bits of audience that are already watching. The *only* things I watch on TV are Torchwood, Doctor Who, Supernatural and Ghost Whisperer. And the latter two I only remember about one ep out of... well, many. Only TW & DW are appointment viewing. And only TW gets me staying up until daft hours of the morning watching it over again.

More like that, please.
Not more like other shows. I ignore them for a reason.




PS having just watched a video of random guys kissing, have to say that's pretty much boring. Reason I read slash (romance between known characters) and not porn (bodies bumping). Bodies is just kind of there. People are the interesting part.

Pride

Jan. 15th, 2007 10:30 pm
beccaelizabeth: Torchwood T filled with pride rainbow (Torchwood)
I was reading around some random meta, and found the line

Very few mainstream shows, if any, have characters for whom it would be in character to sleep with every single other member of the cast.

I'm having a moment of fandom pride.
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Feminism is not about inverting patriarchy so women are in charge.

Gays do not have too many rights. Equal rights are not special rights, and it does too need campaigning for.

And straight people don't have special Pride parades because they get celebrated every damn day in every medium.


... sorry, I swallowed it to stay on topic, but it do not stay down.


Group was split, women disputing men. Men had an topic each they was louder on. Women was nicer and understanding issues.

You know, I hate the whole idea of built in differences or judging by categories, yet every time I get into these arguments it seems like I can predict sides. Bloody annoying.


... I think studying sociology should be mandatory. All schools, all people. I realise it wouldn't necessarily fix anything, but I can live in hope.
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So we were told to read the chapter on feminism for lit next week.
I read that, and the chapter after it is on Lesbian & Gay theory, with a bit on Queer Theory, which is just a bit different.
I was using a pink highlighter and both chapters are now all over pink, including bright pink comments in the margins.
I live in vague fear of having highlighter in hand when I'm reading a library book...
Also I really have to get out of the habit of doodling on nearest available surface, because that tends to be my breasts, and there's areas that just aren't expected to be several colors of glowy.

ANYways
Read more... ) Everyone play the interpretation game. Construct a meaning world we want to live in.

The argument about if slash distorts the text or not is rather irrelevant in these terms. Slash is a set of reading strategies that generate a set of meanings. Readers use those ways of reading because they learned them somewhere, and/or because they're getting something out of them.

Turn the camera on the audience, is full of interesting.

Of course writers are readers too and use a bunch of strategies to make their text and make a preferred reading for it, but there's absolutely no earthly reason why we have to play the same game.



There was a bit in the queer theory section about how some theorists identify liminal boundary breaking moments where categories break down as lesbian moments. Which seems to be making the word carry a really rather big meaning, a lot bigger than most games use.

There was also talking about the closet, and how it isn't really a question of being in or out, because to every new reader there's that whole coming out thing again where first they don't know and then they do, and maybe they only know a little, and maybe they think they know but they haven't been told in so many words, and it adds up even for the most out individual to a spectrum of out-ness where some are told all and some are told nothing. And presumably some are told but read it in their very own way. He's not gay, he's French! And Captain Jack didn't fancy the Doctor!

So I was thinking about Captain Jack and how one review referred to him as being in the closet in Torchwood, and a lot of the comments laughed at the concept. But. If his co-workers are even asking the question, there is a sense in which he is in fact in the closet. And there is another sense in which he has a Really Big Surprising Secret, which he is actively concealing. And some of the funny I see in the situation is that the people look at Clues to the Big Surprising but still imagine his closet has sex in it. Because sexuality is something of an obsession and a Big Important Code, whereas the thing that is actually the Surprising Secret isn't generally a question people think to ask.

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I said on the S3 board but I say again here
on the way in to college today I saw Torchwood advertised on the side of buses
twice.

Captain Jack is really, really big.

Was stood there all heroic, with gun stretched out.

Thing is, buses around here are all colors. So one ad was on a blue bus background, and the other was on pink.

The difference in effect was... interesting.
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Sometimes when the story turns out to be het yet again it just gets really frustrating.

Book I'm on, third in a series, has this character who prefers the company of men. Has said so. Has been fending off marriage proposals. While every other character has been getting paired off, he stays single.

Is a slash reader seeing what I'm seeing? I think so.

It could be cool, the story of a queer Duke in a hereditary system. He already gave up his chance at the crown in order to maintain stability and avoid a civil war. Maybe he had some personal reason to suspect if he became King they'd end up with the same argument in a generation or so. Or maybe, as an important political figure now, he'd have to have a political marriage and an heir but somehow balance that with the relationships he found personally satisfying, somehow without abandoning honour.

Stories! Serious fun layered stories!

But no, they go travelling abroad and find the land of the warrior women.
Love at first sight *again*.
So. Bloody. Bored.

I like it in... I think it was one of the Vorkosigan books, but I don't remember which. Lady Captain, now married to a guy who used to be in love with a guy in a society that had no room for that, or for women warriors. She says she was a solution for him. Possible suggestion that he loves her for being like a man but permitted. Manages to queer the het.

This book I'm reading? NO such subtlety. She's just warrior woman who asks him to sleep with her the first night they meet. With the level of attention the character development gets in this series, that being almost none, I'm pretty much expecting that to be all the story they get. Unless she gets killed off to motivate him or something.

I know I've read this book, I just can't remember it at all. The more I re-read, the more I remember why.

It would be a perfectly respectable RPG campaign.
Its just a godawful novel.
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So, thanks to [personal profile] malnpudland [personal profile] wisdomeagle, I found that
Poll on perceptions of sexuality of characters
Fascinating stuff.
For instance, we learn that, no matter if we've actually seen them shag a member of the same sex on screen, somebody somewhere will rate them as a Kinsey 0.

I was expecting people to read in queer when the text gives us little or nothing to go by, but going the other way somehow surprises me. Leaves me wanting to ask if they understood the scale, in a way that rating someone a 6 when they on-screen-shagged members of the opposite sex would not. My thought patterns exposed there.

So I played with the data and rearranged it so under the cut I have a list of Buffyverse characters in order of mean perceived place on the Kinsey scale.

Andrew was indeed gayer than Xena. And Willow. Though three other out gay characters did rate further up. 



Sorry if the table is a bit of a mess.  I keep changing my mind about which way it would work better.

Mode is popular, so a couple have either 2 with the same votes, or 2 spikes with nearly the same votes a bit seperated.  The graph shapes are quite interesting.
The mean hides how much difference of opinion there was. And the comments showed more complexity than the numbers allow.
All those in the middle numbers are shades of being bi, so most characters are read at least a bit queer by most people in that particular poll. 

The votes column required me to do math.  I already found one I got wrong once, and I'm not really rechecking them.

There's a section of data on who was answering the poll too, but I don't copy or analyse that. 

202 people listed Buffy as a main fandom
190 listed Angel
so any character that has more than that of votes had votes from outside their fandom?

I just thought it was fun: Polls say, Andrew more gay than Lorne, Willow, and Ethan Rayne...
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I'm mousing around, following links, and I found one to a Famous Published Author that has rules about what fanfic can be written. Which sounds cool for a start, for they are cool with fanfic being written. But the way I read it, it kind of boils down to, 'write whatever you like, as long as it isn't queer'. I'm not quite sure, for the phrasing is odd/ambiguous, so I won't link, while I await clarification.

But I'm also reading a discussion where people come up with the point of view that the originator of a 'verse *should* have control over what is written in it.

Which... seems reasonable, right up until it meets politics.

Writing is political. Its a great big message. Its about making meanings out of stuff. If the official work shuts out particular meanings, 'should' that be allowed?

When I read fans getting all blah about slash, it don't bother me any, that's their personal taste, they can have that opinion. If anyone says slash shouldn't be written, then slashers just go play somewhere else, their own mailing lists or whatever. The opinion bothers me, but it isn't particularly relevant to me.

If the people who hold the rights to a 'verse are all slash=bad?
My first impulse is to start a ficathon.
Even though possible consequences would include legal letters.

Sure, it can be said that slashers could go play in a different sandbox. Write about a different 'verse. But why *should* they? The only reason that comes out is that someone, somewhere, is making the value judgement that queer is wrong. And bugger that.

*waves a little flag* (which is pretty colors anyways)



... yeah, I realise this particular discussion is a merry go round and has spun many times before. But this is my today thought.

Stories change people. Change their opinions. Some opinions I've got a particular interest in changing, but preaching won't do it, so, stories.
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there's a thing in fantrhopology about transgender issues, and why isn't there more fic

me, one reason I like Ethan is the whole Change thing. Fluidity and possibility. Can be anything he wants. Can make everyone else be anything he wants. Nifty.
Could that include writing about sex swaps? Yeah.
But would that be a transgender story?
I haven't the slightest clue.
Seems to me that the word is about a community and a bunch of people with specific attitudes and stories and, really, I know not of this.

Can I understand not liking the body you're in? Oh so very. Can I understand not wanting to be female? Yup. How about wanting to try out being a guy? Oh yes.

But wanting to stay that way? Where's the fun in that?
great big comprehension gap.

staying the same means not-being half of things. why not be all things? Well, because they don't want to be, I guess. Still, this to me seems odd.


Also, while I can come up with reasons for people wanting to switch sex in the Buffyverse, they are not reasons which seem to match reasons RL people would have.
Slayers are always female. So if someone didn't want to be a Slayer they could get that Hecate spell done and be male. Presto, no more problem.
Or, Slayers are always female. Watchers are raised being told that Slayers are the only ones strong enough. Wouldn't you want to be strong enough? And if strong=female, wanting to be female seems logical.

Or then there's Andrew. I can see Andrew wanting to be a girl. Guys date girls and its All Okay. And also, girls kick ass. But I can't see it being healthy if Andrew wants to be a girl, because on Andrew it would be a symptom of his general problem with identity. Getting comfy as a guy would be progress.
Though I keep on fic bunnying him into dresses for Halloween. There's something about Andrew in ruby slippers... Or, an Andrew who learns about Slayers early on dressing up as one. Like, it could even be a secret costume, just trousers and t-shirt and a stake, but Andrew knows that he's a Slayer really so when the spell goes into effect, changes.

Also, there's the punchline to a fic joke I never finished writing. Ethan captured by the initiative promises to change someone into something every soldier fears. So he makes him a crossdressing queer.
I, er, stopped writing it because I realised that might only be funny in my head...


change character X into opposite sex, sit back, and watch, is not a transgender story really. Its a thing to do to someone, it isn't about their wanting to anything. It is usually actually opposite of trans, since the fix at the end is the restoration of the status quo.
also there are weaknesses in how it is often written - character X swaps personalities along with their genitals. Which, to me, seems unlikely. Though I can certainly see them changing moods. Hormones are strange.


Halloween episode stories though I do feel would involve some sex swaps. In school in my year there were always the same guys who did drag for free clothes day (all in my art class). I kind of thought there was always those guys. And I'm entirely sure Ethan would be happy to encourage them.
But then again 'Fear Itself' stories could involve some sex swap too, because it would be pretty scary suddenly having the wrong bits. Or, like when Xander broke into the frat house, got to wear the funny girl stuff for humiliation, there would be guys who would have that as their fear, that being real and not temporary.
But that certainly wouldn't be a pleasant story.
Or, again, about transgender precisely.
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Okay, once again somebody said something in their LJ and I don't feel I know them well enough to drop in at random and reply. But [livejournal.com profile] twinkledru said The world is not going to magically become a better place for gays because you wrote Spangel

I disagree.

Words have magic. Stories change people. To borrow some of Angel's words - "We live as though the world was what it should be, to show it what it can be." They, the people in the stories, live that way. We can write them to show things with.

To change hearts and minds you give them stories they can believe in. True stories work for some people, but fantasy can give back a reflection just wonky enough to hold attention without cutting too close to the sore places, or magnify aspects that might otherwise get buried. The right story to the right mind at the right time can change their world. Magic words.
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I've been reading my birthday presents, about £100 worth of books I bought for myself, and I realised the series and authors I like the best have a strong slashy component. Not necessarily outright boy meets boy and goes happily into the sunset, but at least boy meets person of confusing gender status, or vice versa, and true love happens on at least one side. How it works out after that rather depends.

In the Vorkosigan books theres a hermaphrodite in love with our hero for a while. In the Tamir books there is a boy who is secretly a girl and gets all stressed about falling in love with other boys. In the Nightrunner books then two guys meet and fall in love and theres also plot and magic and all that good stuff. And in the Robin Hobb books about the Fool there is the abiding love he has for his Catalyst.

Thing is not all the authors have the slashy version of a happy ending in mind. Read more... )

Things not having the right ending bugs me like nothing else. And I've been told off before now because the author makes up the story so whatever ending they slap on there is the right ending. Well, no. The author writes down the story, but a story has a shape, and the craft of the writing leads the reader to a certain set of expectations by the end of the book. If you have someone going off into the sunset with the wrong person, then yes, it is the wrong ending, because the story didnt lead there. If it has to jump and lurch and skip to get to that particular sunset then it is going to annoy some readers. Including me.

Which is frustrating, because up until then I was liking the story.

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